PS3 controller is motion sensitive

[Zeus]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149512.html

It definetely has the potential to really put a damper on the Wii's controller, especially since there's no sensors. Mind you, it's not going to have nearly the sensitivity, but that doesn't matter when you have masters of marketing at Sony.

The ONLY thing Nintendo has going for it (well, other than price) is the uniqueness of the controller. Even if the PS3's isn't that good, it's really gonna hurt Nintendo when it comes to mass-market acceptance I think. They're already way behind in people's minds long before the next gen starts. Being way less powerful is another huge blow in the minds of the masses. Losing their main selling point is an enormous blow.

The ONLY thing that'll help Nintendo now is having those kiosks showing off Wii Mario and just why you NEED to spend $200 (MAYBE they can get away with $250) on the system, just like the N64 did. Squeenix (Dragon Quest offshoot confirmed as launch title) and the others can't help here, it's a new kick-ass Mario or bust. And not many people are gonna fall for the delayed Zelda-as-launch thing, especially when the graphics are gonna be so far behind.

As much as I love their stuff, looks early on like they might be a more distant third than this time around in the US.

And for those who call me a Nintenwhore, take note of this post.

[M'k'n'zy]

On another note though, my thought is the fact that they copied Nintendo on the controler just goes to show that Nintendo has them worried.

[kali o.]

Dragon Quest is likely just Dragon Quest Kenshin remade (especially since it is a launch title). That is NOT a good thing.

That said, I don't think the Sony controller really hurts Nintendo - at least when viewed with the price tag that came along with it.

Ball is in Nintendo's court...if they can spit out a great price and manage to scrape up more solid 3rd party support, they have a shot. If not, MS is in the best position to sport a price drop pre-launch(es) and retail some killer holiday apps...(outside of Japan at least).

[Andrew, Killer Bee]

That said, I don't think the Sony controller really hurts Nintendo - at least when viewed with the price tag that came along with it.

Ditto that. I think it's a mistake to consider the controller the only thing Nintendo has going for them, too. The controller is just the product of a sensibility that only Nintendo is pushing at the moment. This sensibility produced the DS and Nintendo's ridiculously successful first-party titles for it, and I'm hoping for a bunch of ridiculously successful Revolution titles.

Ball is in Nintendo's court...if they can spit out a great price and manage to scrape up more solid 3rd party support, they have a shot. If not, MS is in the best position to sport a price drop pre-launch(es) and retail some killer holiday apps...(outside of Japan at least).

Odds are excellent that the Rev will be significantly cheaper than the PS3, and here's hoping for some solid 3rd party titles (the weirdness of the system is an advantage, I think, because 3rd-party titles will likely be system-exclusive, just for the oddball controller).

I hadn't thought of the 360 being prime for a price drop, but it's an astute prediction. Sony's going to be entering a tricky Western market, I think.

[Julius Seeker]

Errr, Zeus, I think you are MAJORLY overstating things, the PS3 controller just has a basic tilt function (like what Nintendo has been using with the GBA for a couple years now), that is far below the capablility of the Wii Remote which acts as a pointer and can function in full 3D control (you can push in and outward as well). The guy demonstrated it at the press conference with a flight simulator game, aside from doing barrel roles and pulling up and down, there isn't anything more that it can do; it is nothing like what Ubi-soft described with Red Steel a couple weeks ago.

Anyways, I was quite impressed with Sony's E3 presentation. It's about 2 hours long or so. Recommended watch.

[Zeus]

Errr, Zeus, I think you are MAJORLY overstating things, the PS3 controller just has a basic tilt function (like what Nintendo has been using with the GBA for a couple years now), that is far below the capablility of the Wii Remote which acts as a pointer and can function in full 3D control (you can push in and outward as well). The guy demonstrated it at the press conference with a flight simulator game, aside from doing barrel roles and pulling up and down, there isn't anything more that it can do; it is nothing like what Ubi-soft described with Red Steel a couple weeks ago.

Anyways, I was quite impressed with Sony's E3 presentation. It's about 2 hours long or so. Recommended watch.

What I'm saying is that, from a marketing standpoint to the uneducated masses, the sole thing, other than price, that the Wii had going for it was the controller. Now, that's been taken away. It's very easy for someone to say "yeah, but the PS3 does that AND is MUCH nicer graphically AND is a DVD player, and a Blue-Ray one to boot".

Before this announcement, I said Nintendo needs Mario to prove to people why they need to by the Wii and have kiosks in as many stores as possible for people to actually use the system. Now, it's just that much important since Sony is now using similar technology, albiet not as good. All of us here will likely still get the system if the games are great, but we're talking about the other 85% of the market here.

[Kupek]

What I'm saying is that, from a marketing standpoint to the uneducated masses, the sole thing, other than price, that the Wii had going for it was the controller. Now, that's been taken away. It's very easy for someone to say "yeah, but the PS3 does that AND is MUCH nicer graphically AND is a DVD player, and a Blue-Ray one to boot".

AND it's a month's rent. I think you're underestimating the effect of the price.

[Zeus]

What I'm saying is that, from a marketing standpoint to the uneducated masses, the sole thing, other than price, that the Wii had going for it was the controller. Now, that's been taken away. It's very easy for someone to say "yeah, but the PS3 does that AND is MUCH nicer graphically AND is a DVD player, and a Blue-Ray one to boot".

AND it's a month's rent. I think you're underestimating the effect of the price.

Maybe you're right about that. Hell, I'm not even thinking about a PS3 until about 3 years in.....

[Julius Seeker]

The hardcore gamers are going to understand the difference fine. The uneducated masses of which you speak are not going to spend that kind of money on a video game system. This is the type of money that you would spend on a personal computer which is MUCH more important of a tool than a videogame system. In fact, I didn't even spend 650 bucks on my P4 3.2 ghz PC with 80GB hardrive and 1Gig of ram, DVD re-writable player, etc.. more than a year ago: I actually only spent about $350.

Then again, there are casual gamers (or uneducated gamers) with money, it's hard to deny that =P

But I would take a guess and say that they are a small minority. Sony has never had a system which is THIS expensive. Back when the PSX was released for $400+ the Canadian dollar was also worth a good 40% less than what it is now; so it was more like $250.