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  • Maybe it is true that Israel does control the US.

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #165099  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:28 am
Look at how the US government reacts like a bunch of chuckle puppets. It's a little surreal watching this very questionable foreign leader standing before the US government and saying "Hey, don't listen to your own president on how you conduct foreign policy, listen to me. Let's make things as bad as possible for these 80 million people, they are basically animals."

Here's an idea: why not let your ACTUAL President fix as much of Bumbling Bush's mess as possible before his term's up? Obama's actually a very intelligent guy, but it is crazy how many roadblocks he has had to deal with. You have only a short time left with him before the position's handed off to the likes of Jeb or Hillary. Your government shouldn't be wasting their time and money by giving their podium to this buffoon.



He claims this isn't a political move; although it is a political speech to a political body, and with the Israeli elections happening in 2 weeks, while his Likud party is a little behind in the polls.


But hey, I look on the bright side, perhaps this is really just about the US government being an incredibly stupid after recent elections, and now is the key time to make our move! Maybe Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper will come down and make a speech about how you guys shouldn't listen to the President of the US, and instead to Canada's conservative Prime Minister about building that Keystone pipeline for us so we can pump our dirty tar sands oil to the pacific ocean. Afterall, we need SOME ocean to pipe it to so we can sell it to Europe for some serious cheddar. We need that pipeline to go through the US because we don't want to pipe it through our pristinely beautiful wilderness up here in Canada. Look on the bright side, we all get jobs, you get jobs building our pipeline, while we make hundreds of billions from the European market. Besides, the pipeline won't impact anything important when our corrosive oil burns holes in it, it's just going through the crap states anyway. win-win! Right?

Well no,

There are some people in the US government who at least have a pair.


And it also looks like the majority of Israeli people aren't swayed either:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.645358
 #165100  by Eric
 Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:16 am
Our political system is fucked up? Preaching to the Choir Seek.

Regardless of how you feel about it, the sheep that vote probably thought Netanyahu and Republican party made the Dems and the White House look like fools. Obama is in a position where he can't do anything because the Republicans control both the House and Senate, because that's who people vote for.
 #165102  by ManaMan
 Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:53 pm
I think Eric is right, they're mainly just trying to make Obama and the Dems look powerless. They're also pandering to the pro-Israel voters, be they Jewish or Christian fundies. They're trying to use this as a wedge issue: "See the dems are anti-Israel! vote for us! We even let this guy speak before Congress!".
 #165103  by Replay
 Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:02 pm
Money talks.



And Netanyahu has always regarded the United States' own political will as irrelevant.

 #165149  by Replay
 Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:39 am
"[To remain in Congress], You make a commitment that you will vote to support the military superiority of Israel—the economic assistance that Israel wants, that you would vote to provide that...”

--Cynthia McKinney, who served in Congress from 1993-2003 and again 2005-2007

"These pro-Israel people like pledges: they tried to force me to sign a pledge of loyalty to Israel. When I refused, it was trench warfare, hand to hand combat every day I was in the Congress, and the U.S. people never knew that I was fighting to remain independent for them - to make real peace and to find real justice. " --also McKinney

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 #165190  by Eric
 Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:49 am
Obama should warn the Republicans in the states not to deal with Netanyahu because that deal won't last long.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-elec ... m-1.646709
Likud officials aren’t waiting for the election results. On Wednesday, following less than favorable polls, senior officials labeled the election campaign a failure, and blamed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for the party’s poor showing in the polls ahead of Election Day on Tuesday.

“The Zionist Union will be larger than Likud after the election. This, it seems, is already a fact. The question is what the gap between the two will be. Even if we manage to form the next government, this campaign was a colossal failure. Netanyahu is primarily responsible,” said a senior Likud member.

“Everything went through him during this election season, and the situation isn’t good. The election campaign didn’t function. Netanyahu kept Likud ministers far from decisions,” the senior party figure said. “His excessive focus [on himself in the campaign] and his lack of faith in the party’s Knesset members prompted him to staff the campaign with people who haven’t proven themselves.”

Another Likud official said, “Netanyahu was shown to be a very weak card in this election. He decided to put himself at the front, and forgot that he has an excellent team of ministers and MKs behind him. The public hardly saw them. It turns out the public is weary of Netanyahu, but he didn’t think that was a good enough reason to scale back his presence in the campaign.”
Netanyahu declined to say he would leave politics if he is unable to form a government after Tuesday’s balloting. But behind the scenes, Likud members are already jostling to be the heir apparent.

“There are enough candidates in Likud who aren’t excited about the prospect of an election win, and who are actually waiting for Netanyahu to lose, in the hope of inheriting his place and running for prime minister in the next election,” said one party member.
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/P ... kud-393810
Israelis overwhelmingly want to see Israel go in a different direction following the March 17 election, according to a Panels Research poll taken for The Jerusalem Post and its Hebrew sister publication Maariv Sof Hashavua on Wednesday and Thursday.

Seventy-two percent of respondents said they wanted a change, 20% did not, and 8% had no opinion. A majority said the country was going in the wrong direction on socioeconomic issues and international relations. Asked if they want Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to continue to head the government, 48% said no and 41% said yes.

The Zionist Union took a commanding lead over the Likud in the poll, 25 Knesset seats to 21, doubling its two seat lead from last week’s poll.

Yesh Atid and the Joint (Arab) List are set to win 13 each, Bayit Yehudi 11, Kulanu 10, Shas seven, United Torah Judaism six, five each for Meretz and Yahad, and only four for Yisrael Beytenu, according to the survey. Twelve percent of respondents were undecided.