Maybe the US should keep its spying eyes to itself...

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?obje ... BBB2281">N Korea stares down US spy plane near its coast...</a>

Maybe the US should keep its spying eyes to itself...</div>

[VicRattlehead]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Honestly.. the koreans should have shot that motherfucker down, because the United States would have if any country were spying on them</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I like how it's called a "hostile action", like the N.Koreans have no right to try an scare off spy planes.</div>

[VicRattlehead]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>I just ask myself whenever i read / hear something like this - would the U.S let this happen to them......</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't understand this situation, wasn't it Bush in the first place who began shooting his mouth off about him getting the US to attack North Korea? It just seams like he's doing everything in his power to piss The Peoples Republic of China off.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>uhm..guys? The US recon plane was over International Waters...that IS a hostile action</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It was off the coast of North Korea, what would you do if North Korean spy planes started soaring just off the coast of California?</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>China?</div>

[SineSwiper]

<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I think they did a good job of making them shit their pants with the target lock.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>we can't cross into North Korean air space or they WOULD open fire. We claim airspace out into international waters</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>China would be even more pissed if the US attacked North Korea than they are about the imminent attack on Iraq.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Hey, according to the article no shots were fired. That's in no way a hostile action no matter which way you look at it. Personally, I think they should have shot the plane down, it was obviously spying.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>uhm no shit? Of course we're spying, that's no hidden fact. We've been keeping an eye on them for decades. Shooting down a plane in international waters is a declaration of war</div>

[Ganath]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Hey, uh... no shit we were spying and uh... no shit that N.Korea doesn't want to be spied on. Spying isn't exactly protected by international laws either.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Show me exactly what documentation says that shooting down a spy plane over international waters is a declaration of war.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>International waters....all they can do is the same thing - shadow the Recon plane. I think you guys are getting all huff n puff over nouthin'.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>They were what, 100 KM off the coast of N. Korea before they returned. Yeah, no recon plane could spy from that distance (sarcasm alert!). Besides, they just wanted to show they weren't gonna be pushed around</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>According to Tess, it's perfectly fine what the US were doing. I mean, they should be the only ones allowed in international airspace, didn't you know that?</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Bwhahaha... according to who?</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>fuck your exact documentation find it yourself. It's basic rules of engagement. International waters are open to anyone. It doesn't matter what kind of plane it is, you don't fire on another country's plane in international waters. The best you can do is what they did-- harrass and scare</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>that's right-- twist my words. We don't cross into their airspace they don't have the right to take it down. Same rules go for us</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Did you like how China shot down the Japanese 747 commercial airliner which got lost and flew tinto their airspace in the 80's? Killing 300 civilians (some of them my classmates)?</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>A declaration of war is a very specific thing - it is not implied, it can only be declared.</div>

[Derithian]

<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>a threat the the us....it's fucking booshi</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>That wasn't an aircraft meant for spying for an aggressive enemy government now was it?</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>But it was shot down, nonetheless.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't need to find any documentation because I already know that shooting down spy planes does not equal a declaration of war. I don't even know how the idea entered your head.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>It is a completely different situation, that was a civilian transport aircraft, the other was a military spy aircraft. There is no connection at all other than that they are both aircrafts.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I thought for sure we'd go to war with China. I was pissed. My classmate was from Japan and he used to play Xevious at his house in Manila.</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>If there had been a war back then, where would we be right now? China has grown very well economically and is becoming a much better place to live. Had there been war, likely the world would be in chaos, and 1.3 billion still living in third world conditions (or dead with the rest of us).</div>

[Shellie]

<div style='font: 11pt georgia; text-align: left; '>They didnt even shoot it down, they locked onto target and the spy plane took off.</div>

[Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>They never did anything to the plane, just paced it in international space close to home, just like the US would have. And don't think that the US wouldn't have targeted a N Korean recon plane....</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Dude...I said "I thought we would." I was only a teenager. I didn't say "We should."</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Ah, sorry about that then.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>of course there is no automatic declarations of war. I'm saying it's just Like making a declaration of war</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Uh...that should say "...I used to play Xevious at his house....."</div>

[Julius Seeker]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>"Shooting down a plane in international waters is a declaration of war" No it's not.</div>