Je Suis Charlie Hebdo.

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No more pithy comments? Remember what I told you all when I first came back? I'm not here to make friends or kiss asses.

I'm here to keep an eye on this community - which gave me the finger when I asked you to stop using homophobic slurs, gave me the finger when I asked you to stop using the site as a torrent linksite/aggregator to commit piracy, and had a bad habit of slandering me behind my back while I was gone. Don't complain about beds you have made, people; and I won't either. You can call me whatever you want - believe whatever you want, fall into the usual traps of thinking anyone who criticizes Israel is "anti-Semitic", or that anyone who points out your hypocrisies in laughing over "The Interview" while the US military has tortured 100 people or more to death in the last decade is "anti-American" - but at least you're doing it to my face now.

Once more I'm going to repeat to you - this entire thing was staged for your benefit; and more to the point, for Netanyahu's.

Did you notice the "all French Jews should return to Israel" nonsense that came out of Bibi's mouth after the attacks? That was the real thrust of this operation. Israel is a nation of eight million people surrounded by one billion Arabs furious over the way the Israelis treat them. It lives every day in existential dread and its birthrates are barely enough to replace existing population. It is trying to encourage aliyah to the region to bolster its population; and it doesn't care whether the means used to produce aliyah are fair or foul. This is a game for Bibi; it makes Muslims look bad at the United Nations, gives Israel a stick to frighten French Jews with, and say "Look! Look at the evil Muslims! You'll be safer in Israel!" - but none of it is real. This is not the first time Israel has targeted Jews with false flag attacks, either. It happened in the British mandate of Palestine as well, and in surrounding nations during the first years after Israel was created at the United Nations - for example, in 1950, when they recruited Naeim Giladi, an Iraqi Jew, to bomb the U.S. facilities in Iraq, to encourage Iraqi Jews to migrate to Israel. It worked so well that 125,000 Jews in Iraq migrated to Israel, leaving only 6,000 remaining.

Veterans Today has a fine article about this sordid history right now. Read it or don't; but if you don't do the research, don't call me a crackpot, an anti-Semite, or a hater of my own country. Look up Einstein's notes on condemnation without investigation. (He as an American Jew condemned military Zionism too, by the way.)

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/14 ... llow-jews/

[kali o.]

No more pithy comments? Remember what I told you all when I first came back?

People either ignore you or pity you or both. So I wouldnt expect much further engagement..nor do i think anyone remembers any of the unwell nonsense you say.

Just fyi kiddo.

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Same way you ignore the truth about 9/11, kali. It is a myth that only unimportant things are ignored.

How's your work going over there at Hudson Pacific Properties?

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Read "Pudd'nhead Wilson" by Mark Twain for a great analysis of why important things are ignored...sometimes for decades. Great book.

[Joe]

Holy shit, Mental! You're OCD and delusional.

At least everyone is still alive. Anyone release Ishmael from the basement yet?

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Holy shit, Joe! You're dishonest and cowardly.

Why did you support the Bush Administration even after they repudiated the Geneva Convention and established torture as an official policy? Tiny dick, maybe?

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Smart people sound "delusional" to genuinely delusional people as a general rule. Shall I explain to you how many delusions you've bought into?

It hasn't been pleasant coming back here to find out that the intellectual debate center and gaming discussion page I established has been transformed into a place for stupid jokes, propaganda, and piracy.

It's like finding out that the upscale bar you once founded and then sold has been transformed into a dive bar full of puke and angry boozers.

[kali o.]

Someone sent me this today...I think its funny enough for this post.

http://www.onyxtruth.com/2014/04/01/pcts/

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You would. It's an article that mentions no actual evidence or forensics but puts out a lot of psychobabble designed to let you not think about anything you don't want to.

Any answer on why those five Israeli men were arrested filming the 9/11 attacks and cheering, by the way?

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I do approve of one thing about that article though - it endorses, at the end, "question everything."

You're allowed to question conspiracies too. In fact, I encourage it.

So far, however, you're not embodying what you're preaching there - because you still don't question anything, kali. You find an excuse to look the other way, say "TL:DR", and then you go steal a bunch of other people's hard work and you watch it without paying for it.

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Fact of the matter is - in any analysis of a terrorist attack or other crime scene, the important thing is to look at physical evidence, and discuss it.

You don't do that. Not one of you has discussed any physical evidence from that day. You're looking for articles that make you feel good about your apathy. It's a convenient piece of pop psychology; it's not acceptable as actual forensics. Sorry, kal.

[Joe]

I'm pretty sure all these troubles you claim are fake was created by the Illuminati. They pose as Jewish hedge fund execs looking to control weak minded people. Mmmm......Like you. They bamboozled you, man. You've been completely hoodwinked, pettifogged and hornswoggled. If you don't know what those mean....basically....you've been duped.

*dusts off hands*

I think you're just a nut case. Geez....you think you're some kind of spy. I won't waste my time arguing with you. It's more fun to poke fun at you. This should get you to post about 3 or 4 replies, right? I'll go make some popcorn.

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You think I am a "nutcase" because you haven't lived what I lived, nor seen what I saw.

But you said something very revealing there - "It's more fun to poke fun at you."

You have no interest in doing any research. You just want a bitch to make fun of, and I'm not your bitch, Joey.

Why'd you support the Bush Administration even after they legalized torture?

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Most "debunkers", I find, have that mentality - laziness combined with light sadism.

You never grow up. You find more pleasure in trying to taunt and mock than you ever would in being an upright human being.

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How'd the five dancing Israelis who were recording the attacks get there?

Anyone here got an answer for me on this question, five years after the first time I asked it?

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --Albert Einstein

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I guess I can let you off the hook on one of those questions though - why you supported the Bush Administration even after the introduction of torture. I have an answer on that one.

[Joe]

The thing about mentally unstable conspiracy theorists like yourself is this: when confronted with facts that debunk your crazy theories, you will then move the goal posts and say "Well, what about this?!"

*poke*

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Absolutely untrue.

You'll talk in language like "moving the goalposts" and "keeping the conspiracy alive" because those are very convenient ways for you to never have to look at anything I actually say, Joe.

In fact, I have not "moved the goalposts".

The goal is still to get most of you to actually take a look at the same video I have been asking you to look at for years : the one that shows the five Israeli men arrested in the United States for cheering, who were later deported back to Israel by the Bush Administration with no investigation - ALL of that reported on by a news outlet as mainstream as ABC News ( http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885 ) - later appearing on Israeli television to say "we were there to document the incident."



I set those goalposts up a long time ago; and not a single one of you seems able to kick a ball between them.

No one has ever discussed that video with me, despite multiple attempts for me to get you all to look. It is as if a forcefield exists around it; a mental block.

But the fact is - a primary source is a primary source; the video of these men appearing on Israeli television is a primary source, because it features five people involved in the original event in some way. If you were actually educated in your history classes, you know ALL historical research that matters comes from primary sources first - sources that actually are firsthand records of the deeds and sayings of people and places and things involved in the event.

But you don't seem to recognize that it's important to discuss primary sources - not the video evidence of those five men who were caught filming the attacks and cheering; not the evidence of prior existing video being spliced in with screams over the Hebdo attacks, either.

Everything I see here indicates that most of you think legitimacy is conferred by media consensus. But a media DISCUSSION of events elsewhere is always a secondary source at best; even a tertiary source, or worse, depending on how many levels of separation there are between those discussing the events and THEIR primary sources.

Honestly, do you know what a primary source is? Do you care?