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  • Waterpik Waterflosser Ultra - alternate to dental floss

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Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #164513  by Julius Seeker
 Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:46 am
So I got one of these for Christmas. Me being me, I tried it out at maximum strength and the results were numbing... Literally, my mouth was numb after a single 3-4 minute session.

The results were a lot better than standard dental flossing, far better in fact. I have some ugly coffee stains between my teeth that always seem to become noticible to me within 1-2 months after a dentist cleaning; daily flossing, and twice daily mouthwash & brushing don't seem to make a difference in that area - I've been using a mid range Oral B electric toothbrush for the last couple of years or so; the mid range toothbrushes tend to be as effective as the high end -$2-600 ones in their primary task and durability, it is just that they lack all the bells and whistles.

Anyway, after this single session with the waterpik set on max power, about 30-40% of the coffee stains were gone, and the area between my teeth felt thoroughly flossed. The major issues I encountered were the numbness due to the high pressure, and the gum bleeding. Other than that, I am impressed with the results.

And upon reading the box further, the water pressure is supposed to be high enough to strip off plaque.
 #164526  by Don
 Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:37 pm
I use one and it does seem to be more effective than flossing, and I can't get flossing to work most of the time anyway but even when I do, it sure seems like running a jet of water ought to clean stuff up more effectively.
 #164527  by Shrinweck
 Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:12 pm
From what I've heard about my dad's adventures in dental hygiene, high pressure cleaning in this form (or things like new 'sonic' toothbrushes) can lead to damage so be careful. I think it can contribute to gum recession? I'm not a dental professional, but my dad got talked to by the dentist about amateur use of high impact cleaning or some such. It's probably fine if you're removing food from gaps, but if you're futzing about with plaque and stain removal, I'd ask someone next cleaning you go in for. My dad also has really bad luck with dental hygiene despite decades of being meticulous about it, so there's a good chance that this kind of stuff had more of an impact on him than it would on someone else, just thought I'd say something.
 #164531  by Eric
 Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:32 am
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Greatest modern invention of our time.

A water pick can help remove food particles from your teeth and might help reduce bleeding and gum disease, but it isn't generally considered a substitute for brushing and flossing.
 #164535  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:40 am
Hahaha, it was just a test! I won't do it again for now and not very often...

I am not sure a lot about gum recession other than it is caused by gingivitis. It's something that can be repaired at least.

I have been using the Waterpik more frequently now, it is definitely a lot more thorough and easier than flossing; it's easy to reach areas that are very troublesome to reach. I was a little hesitant to get off floss completely, but when it comes to cleaning around the gums, there is a specific component specialized for that, and the pressure needs to be on low setting; I would say this is both more thorough and less damaging than floss. In other words, no need for the string.

Eric, I have tried those flossing picks in the past, but I didn't end up liking them very much because they are too taut. Admittedly though, I did pick a cheap and terrible brand.
 #164538  by Eric
 Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:32 am
Yeah you have to find a good brand, I've had ones where I'd have to go through 5 of the fucking things to get all my teeth, but I've found good ones that last for all my teeth. :)
 #164539  by Don
 Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:46 pm
I remember my dentist telling me those new floss are for the weak, not that I was ever able to use the dental floss with any efficiency, or even the newer one, but still better than the old ones.
 #164555  by Julius Seeker
 Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:52 am
I agree, seems a weird design choice. Anyway, despite warnings of gum recession, I sand blasted my teeth a few more times and the coffee stains are nearly gone, down to the point where they're just a few dim spots. I think I'm done with that now, I'll finish up with some crest bleaching strips.

Edit:

Actually, with a bit of thought, it's so the user has freedom of motion without having to have their finger on the button the whole time - that would be annoying. The pause is simply an easy access thing - alitho ugh it could have worked as a toggle as well.
 #164581  by Replay
 Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:23 am
I want a team of tiny gnomes armed with miniature hydrogen cannons that caress my teeth and blast infections with automated AI. (Admittedly I did get a vibrating toothbrush this year, and it's cooler. Just not that much cooler.)
 #164584  by Anarky
 Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:44 pm
I think switching to an electric toothbrush was a contributing factor in me having to get a gum graft a few years ago. I brushed like normal when I was suppose to just let it glide. I've pretty much swapped back to normal tooth brushes because my dentist got me on these Nimbus brushes and none of the heads for my sonicare are as soft: https://www.nimbusdental.com/
 #164586  by Don
 Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:24 pm
Replay wrote:I want a team of tiny gnomes armed with miniature hydrogen cannons that caress my teeth and blast infections with automated AI. (Admittedly I did get a vibrating toothbrush this year, and it's cooler. Just not that much cooler.)
Whenever I read about how nanomachines are going to take over the world or destroy humanity I always figure something like this has to happen first before I have to worry about it.