Je Suis Charlie Hebdo.

[Joe]

Time to rile up some people! What a scary world we live in. North Korea gets upset over a movie, Muslim extremists massacre people over a cartoon of Mohammed.

Have a nice day. Please don't kill me coz I insulted your whatever it is you worship.

[Replay]

Call me sufficiently riled, "G-Man". Are you going to exhort me to move back to Israel too? I'll be "safe" there among the same people who put on this puppet show for France and the world?

[Julius Seeker]

I don't even know if "extremist" would even be a proper label, since it would imply they actually take Islam seriously, and very seriously.

I think Fanatic fits well. They were were guys who were weak Muslims in practice, but yet committed horrific crimes because someone dared insult the leader ISIS and the Prophet Mohammed, including the murder of an Islamic man among other innocent people. By Islamic scripture, this is sinning to the highest degree; and these guys are no better than any other Fanatic who commits thuggish and murderous acts in the name of their chosen icon.

Following an icon is against Islamic scripture, it's kind of what Mohammed's message was all about, how following idols and icons led people away from enlightenment and even onto the path of evil. Mohammed was fairly serious about that, Icons even included depictions of Jesus and God, and even Mohammed himself.
The murdering of innocents is the other top sin in the Qur'an.

These guys who are running around with guns and shooting people are akin to violent death cult; like Waco or Jonestown.

[Replay]

Seeker, they don't EXIST. Footage was spliced together to make this little fearmongering diversion; sound effects added to existing video - the usual things I keep asking everyone here to look at; but people don't look.

The Turks are right: This entire thing was an Israeli operation.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Anka ... cks-387686

[Replay]

Is there anything that will wake this community up to the depth of the psychological manipulations?

[Joe]

Who is Replay.....and you CAN NOT be serious. You really think this was all made up?

[Shrinweck]

Oh. He's serious. Good luck.

[Eric]

Who is Replay.....and you CAN NOT be serious. You really think this was all made up?

That's Mental, yes he is serious, your call if you wish engage.

[Joe]

I think his tin foil hat caused some brain damage. He should go back to his old name, Mental.

[Replay]

You know, when I posted this, this morning, I said to myself - "Why are you telling these goddamned dumb goyim the truth? They're just going to shit on you for it."

It's good not to have been disappointed.

Shame on me for telling you the truth. As Mark Twain said - "Never tell the truth to those who are unworthy of it."

[Replay]

Still supporting the Bush Administration, Gentleman Joey? Didn't you get on the outs here for awhile for refusing to condemn torture and whatnot? I missed all of that, but heard about it later.

"...the documents reveal that the firm [Prescott Bush] worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/s ... ndworldwar

[Oracle]

You know, when I posted this, this morning, I said to myself - "Why are you telling these goddamned dumb goyim the truth? They're just going to shit on you for it."

It's good not to have been disappointed.

Shame on me for telling you the truth. As Mark Twain said - "Never tell the truth to those who are unworthy of it."

Edit: Just go away.

[Joe]

The truth is you're blind by refusing to see, Mental. It's a shame to see that you've grown up to be a crackpot.

[Replay]

The blind calling the sighted blind. That's pretty astonishing, Joe.

I worked for an Israeli hedge fund in my time away from the Inn of the Last Home here. The owner was quite open about how many of these stories are fabricated for the benefit of the goyim...but don't take my word for it.

As for you, Oracle - make me! Go ask kali to ban me. I'm sure he'll do it for you.

I get tired of being the only one in any given room to question the information I'm given, instead of simply accepting everything I see on the news, as you do.

I'm just looking up the IQ of my Ashkenazi Jewish people, in hopes of understanding why we bear the burdens we do, of intelligence, of actual research, and foresight...Twain's writings are helping.

"The Jews have the best average brain of any people in the world. The Jews are the only race who work wholly with their brains and never with their hands. There are no Jewish beggars, no Jewish tramps, no Jewish ditch diggers, hod-carriers, day laborers or followers of toilsome, mechanical trades. They are peculiarly and conspicuously the world’s intellectual aristocracy. ... The Jew's contributions to the world’s list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are way out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world… and has done it with his hands tied behind him."

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... twain.html

[Replay]

*shrug*

To the Israeli man I worked for, Joe - you would have been considered the way the Israeli consider the "children of Ham", as you are Filipino, as I recall - yes?

You, Oracle, would fare slightly better - you would simply have been considered a stupid American goyim, though still a risk to him - as this man was badly beaten up just for being Jewish while in college, and trusted no one very well.

This man grew up to be a hedge fund owner who does part-time spying for...well, I won't mention the agency; if you are intelligent you will know what it is. Rather bitter; he describes himself as amoral, and his goal is to aggressively pursue trading strategies that would once have been illegal, but are now legal - if not entirely ethical - to compete with Goldman Sachs.

He was not a very kind person - his family even less so, no surprise given their work - and yet I can tell you right now that in some ways he was already kinder than some of you have been to me here.

I started out five years ago exploring these topics with the best of intentions. Those of you here who have never had any experience in the world of international security have done nothing but demean me, since I started trying to explain these topics - I can't help what I know, people; I was born into this. My grandfather worked for three Presidents.

But call me a "crackpot" if you really must.

It will protect you all from things you are not ready to see and understand.

Really - forgive them, they know not what they do, is relevant here too. Were you born into what I was, you would know what I know...but you don't, so I can't judge you all against that.

I wish you all the best; but this is the last time I wish you such.

Any more demeanment, hate, and mockery, and I will do what I must in the future to protect myself from such ignorance and hatred, and to protect my own reputation.

[Joe]

Seriously, Mental? Very AskaNazi of you.

[Replay]

*shrug* I am Ashkenaz.

And indeed I am trying to EXPOSE what the worst of my Askhenaz people do to you, Joe - and you call me a "crackpot" for my pains and troubles.

So really, what take-home lesson are you teaching me here?

[Joe]

Looks like my "message" went right over your superior intellectual head.

[Replay]

And what message was that, Joe? Explain it to this poor, simple, "low-IQ" Ashkenaz.

If you were trying to promote tolerance via all this "I am Charlie" nonsense, be aware that Charlie Hebdo has censored plenty of material. They want the right to do offensive cartoons about Mohammed because they hate Muslims. It wears a bit thin.

But hey, I'm Ashkenaz! Right? So I should be happy about it all? Up with Israel, you can't criticize Jews but you can draw pictures of Muhammad because up the Zionists and down with the Arabs? Stick to my own kind.

Do explain it all to me.

[Replay]

Charlie Hebdo is an organization of bigots masquerading as a free-speech cartooning group; just as the Bush Administration was a criminal arms dealing syndicate with Nazi connections masquerading as a patriotic, pro-American family and friends.

It wears on me to see these groups successfully play everyone I know via favorable coverage from media groups with a lot to gain from it in each case.

[Oracle]

You got all of that from "just go away"? The voices must be working full time...

And apparently, you're a racist piece of shit.

[kali o.]

As for you, Oracle - make me! Go ask kali to ban me. I'm sure he'll do it for you.

I get tired of being the only one in any given room to question the information I'm given, instead of simply accepting everything I see on the news, as you do.

Why imply that? Id only ban someone for disruptive posts (spam) or hate speech/threats. I dont particularly see your Jesse Ventura impersonation to be disruptive (people can ignore you) and I will warn you when you pass into hate speech (close...ya jew/homo/usa hater you

You are a part of this community and history. A currently very ill and confused part but a part nonetheless.

Ps - if people disagree, feel free to pm me.

[Replay]

What kills me about my own Ashkenazi people is the way we do and revere movies like "Borat" - a fine film, a necessary film, indeed maybe one of the most important historical American "documents" of our time, documenting a lot of the hatred against minorities and gays via Cohen's rather brilliant work - but when it comes back on us? Suddenly it's time to ruin careers and get people fired. Either the humor of stereotypes has validity to expose the sins of nations or it does not. There is no defensible halfway position that criticism of one ethnicity is okay, but another is permissible.

Either free speech is free speech or it is not. It is not there because everyone agrees with what needs to be protected. Were that the case, the First Amendment is unnecessary.

And thus the hypocrisy at Hebdo wherein they fired a cartoonist critical of a rather dubious conversion to Judaism because it might have hurt Sarkozy, but they're willing to risk an international incident over these cartoons - it bothers me. I think I have a right to that position; but your mileage may vary.

How many of you liked and watched "Borat"? Be honest.

[Replay]

And apparently, you're a racist piece of shit.

I was describing the Israeli man I worked for, not me, Oracle. Be quite glad that I do not hold his views.

It is not me who is promoting the "stick to my own kind" mentality here - but all of you, for accusing me of "racism" for exposing the espionage actions of the Israeli spy services here. You refuse to believe it; you call me nasty names for saying it.

The take-home message, unless I am missing something, is indeed "stick to my own kind".

[Replay]

A currently very ill and confused part but a part nonetheless.

As I watch all of you laugh over "The Interview" -a movie that caused an international incident, that could get people killed, that depicts the assassination of a sitting head of state (I do not defend North Korea, but the US tortures just as many people these days) - I wonder which of us is truly sick, kali.

[Replay]

You don't really understand my own viewpoints, people - and you have no desire to, it seems.

Israel has been very successful at getting anyone who criticizes it branded a "racist", a "piece of shit" - and the other things you all call me. Nothing could be further from the truth. Israel is an apartheid state; had you experience with how that nation currently treats ALL non-Jewish foreigners - PARTICULARLY those without white skin - you might understand why I go out of my way to expose these things.

Really? I forgive you. Were you born into a family that worked for three Presidents, you would be in my boat right now - knowing things I'm not supposed to say, and saying them anyway because they are hurting the world, and being called a "Nazi" because of it, and having my sanity questioned because you still think the news media is honest with you - and you wouldn't want it. I promise.

[Replay]

There can be no real tolerance in dishonesty. And as such, Hebdo isn't tolerant in the least. It's unashamedly pro-Jewish and pro-Freemason; those who cartoon against these things are fired or exiled.

You may "Je suis Charlie" all you like. I won't be. I am not them and will not be like them.

[Replay]

I know what I saw, and what I was told, by the hedge fund owner I worked for.

It seems some of you never will.

As such, you will never understand me; you will always think I am "anti-Semitic" or "a racist" for my criticisms of Israel - even though Israelis have threatened to murder and rape my family, to have me sent to a concentration camp, over my own desire to see settlements halted in Gaza to restart the peace process. Odd that you have no criticisms of such people.

I forgive you for it. But I pity you for it.

[Oracle]

I was describing the Israeli man I worked for, not me, Oracle. Be quite glad that I do not hold his views.

Woosh

I'm sure you'll eventually figure it out with your superior IQ.

And for the record: Israel has plenty to be criticized for - disagreement on that is not why people don't tolerate you.

[Replay]

If you're referring to me calling you "goyim" - well, Oracle, you believe everything that the Israeli espionage agencies put out for you.

It's a little hard for me not to laugh right now. I know full well how well the Israelis are lying to you every day about all of this.

I could go back and work for the man I described in a second. As I said, he was not a very nice man; but again I am wondering if he has more honor than you do. He was beaten for being Jewish, he loves his people - and seeing how you treat me when I try to tell you the truth, I am forced to wonder if he is right, and my Jewish people must do these things simply so that we accumulate and acquire enough power and wealth in the world to finally be safe from the billions who do hate us.

[kali o.]

Odd that you have no criticisms of such people.

No one said that. But you need to pretend they did. Its part of your illness.

Woosh indeed. /shrug

[Replay]

And for the record: Israel has plenty to be criticized for - disagreement on that is not why people don't tolerate you.

Make me believe it, Or. It is only when I claim any given terror attack is an Israeli false flag that the viciousness against me comes out.

I quite admit I started off abrasive here - because last time, when I was quite calm and polite and confronted no one, stating the truth calmly, I was immediately compared to a neo-Nazi by Shrin. Do you recall?

[Replay]

Odd that you have no criticisms of such people.

No one said that. But you need to pretend they did. Its part of your illness.

Woosh indeed. /shrug

Please do show me where you condemned the Israelis who threatened to rape my sister, murder my family, or send me to an Israeli prison over my views on Gaza. I'll wait.

[kali o.]

Odd that you have no criticisms of such people.

No one said that. But you need to pretend they did. Its part of your illness.

Woosh indeed. /shrug

Please do show me where you condemned the Israelis who threatened to rape my sister, murder my family, or send me to an Israeli prison over my views on Gaza. I'll wait.

A ) we have never been able to have a rational conversation because you dont start from anywhere remotely rational.

B ) that would be a stupid conversation. I am not interested in discussing your online spats and using anecdotal extremes to paint everyone. Similarly, I dont judge America based on your average youtube comment section. What you just said to me was stupid. Stupid stupid. It would be nice if you saw why.

/sigh

[Replay]

Oh! So you've never condemned those people who threatened to murder my family, and you can't because it's a "stupid conversation".

Gotcha, kali. Thank you for that rather manifest bit of compassion.

As I noted - you didn't condemn them, nor will you. Thanks for proving that particular point, if nothing else.

[Replay]

What you just said to me was stupid. Stupid stupid. It would be nice if you saw why.

There's a logical next step.

See, you can EXPLAIN your position instead of just calling me stupid.

Not your style, though. And no, it's not fucking self-evident. Not even close.

[Replay]

I am who I am because those people threatened to murder my family - and indeed because I went to the police over one; the FBI over another - and do you know what I was told, by both local police and the FBI?

"The threats against me were protected free speech."

Karma, perhaps for my own temper outbursts over the years; and yet you may understand why I am keen to see the power of such Israeli syndicates broken. These people threatened FAR worse than anything I have ever said in my own anger - threatened to rape and murder my mother and sister - and the authorities said they would not help at all, what was said to me was perfectly legal.

And you, of course, have no desire to condemn them, because "stupid stupid" feelings reasons emotions (translate as: you don't like me, so I am within my bounds to believe you will not help to protect me if any of them ever attempt to make good on these threats).

So forgive me; I will protect myself and mine from these exceedingly violent, ridiculously criminal Israeli men. Such does not make me an "anti-Semite". A man whose female family members are credibly threatened, who does not make basic precautions and preparations for self-defense, is either a layabout or a fool.

And exposing these Israeli operations for what they are, whether you see it or not, is part of the defense regimen. For if no one does, Israel's political power will do nothing but increase - just as it has, every day, since 9/11.

[kali o.]

Oh! So you've never condemned those people who threatened to murder my family, and you can't because it's a "stupid conversation".

Gotcha, kali. Thank you for that rather manifest bit of compassion.

As I noted - you didn't condemn them, nor will you. Thanks for proving that particular point, if nothing else.

We are not your metaphorical shoulder nor, to quote Kupek, your emotional punching bag. You learn the difference between having a rational conversation and ranting about your personal delusions because you are off your meds or fighting with trolls online....well then you might actually get to know our views (but you dont really want to, do you....).

Until then.....

[Oracle]

See, you can EXPLAIN your position instead of just calling me stupid.

Not your style, though. And no, it's not fucking self-evident. Not even close.

People choosing to not get sucked down your rabbit hole topic-of-choice seems to bring out some anger/frustration.

Oh, and obviously you're not stupid! You're Ashkenazi!

[Replay]

They are not delusions. You just believe that because you still believe what you see on the news every day, kali.

And until YOU see that...I agree. A gulf of understanding is impossible. You will believe whatever attention I draw from the Israelis is my own fault and consequence, and be unconcerned that the police and FBI will no longer investigate such death threats when made by Israelis; and I will continue to do what it takes to protect MY family from them should any of these subhuman men who threatened to rape and murder my mother and sister, or send me to a concentration camp, invade my own life.

Enjoy!

[Oracle]

well then you might actually get to know our views (but you dont really want to, do you....).

Really is the crux of it, now isn't it?

[Replay]

well then you might actually get to know our views (but you dont really want to, do you....).

Oh, the irony.

Not once have you ever really considered my views, so sure you are that they are "delusions".

Once more - I was told by both this Israeli hedge fund owner and by a close friend, a Federal-level lawyer with a security clearance, privately, that Israel was indeed involved in 9/11.

In fact - this close friend even threatened me with detention at Guantanamo Bay over it when I refused to be silent later, out of love for my nation. She had that level of power to detain, in her capacity at the agency she worked for - which I literally cannot name.

And that is all you will get out of me on it, because I'm tired of being called crazy by those who have never been in or around a security clearance or people who have one. You cannot and will not understand; and I simply have to accept that.

I'm not risking myself anymore or my family, or exposing this site to potential IDF surveillance - for Israel does have "cyberpatrols" out every day, reading conversations like this, and taking notes - over people who will never be fair to me or believe what I say.

[Oracle]

And that is all you will get out of me on it, because I'm tired of being called crazy by those who have never been in or around a security clearance or people who have one. You cannot and will not understand; and I simply have to accept that.

Oh, assumptions.

[Eric]

In fact - this close friend even threatened me with detention at Guantanamo Bay over it when I refused to be silent later, out of love for my nation. She had that level of power to detain, in her capacity at the agency she worked for - which I literally cannot name.

[kali o.]

They are not delusions. You just believe that because you still believe what you see on the news every day, kali.

Partially correct. I only get my news from jon stewart (filthy jew!) and al jazeera (probably jew run as well). But you are still wrong...you are judged on your own merits.

As for why you cant "name names" or offer any other specifics and actual evidence in that other post...its because it never actually happened and is a facet of your illness. I promise.

Still, if for no other reason than to shift you to a more productive mindset, lets pretend they exist. Then those people said/did bad things to you and i am sorry. Thats the end of that conversation...it goes nowhere else non-emotional. So stop going there.

[Replay]

Gosh, people, tell me all about the assumptions. Those clearances can't be very high based on what I've told you and what you've called me "delusional" for.

[Replay]

In fact - this close friend even threatened me with detention at Guantanamo Bay over it when I refused to be silent later, out of love for my nation. She had that level of power to detain, in her capacity at the agency she worked for - which I literally cannot name.

I KNOW you don't have a clearance or know anyone who has one, Eric. I can't help it if you don't believe me. Your problem and not mine.

[Replay]

Like I said - I tell you all the truth, and I get crapped upon mightily for it, my sanity questioned - and you wonder why I don't think of you as good people?

[Replay]

But you are still wrong...you are judged on your own merits.

If only I believed that! It seems to me I'm judged as an "anti-Semite" and a "racist" because I tell you God's honest truth - which is that the Hebdo attack, 9/11, 5/5, 7/7 and innumerable other attacks are the work of Israeli espionage groups seeking to publicly discredit Muslims so that Israel may continue to gain support for wars against its neighbors, among other things (the PNAC and its "New Pearl Harbor" and successful doubling of the Defense budget are also a factor, of course).

The second I say it, I am judged on YOUR merits; and your definitions of what is and isn't "delusion" - found wanting, called a racist and an anti-Semite, and a "terrorist" in conversations from years ago, and things of that sort, and pronounced sick and inferior.

I'm sick of it, quite frankly. Telling you all the truth is a policy I am strongly reconsidering in light of your poor track records in handling it.

[Replay]

Really - believe what you want.

Believe that da vewy bad Muswim tewwowists awe coming for free speech at Charlie Hebdo and acwoss the Westewn wowld!

Vous êtes Charlie! You can sit at home, take fake pride in promoting fake tolerance in solidarity with a fake protest after a fake terror attack, feel very good about yourselves - and far superior to "anti-Semitic", "anti-USA" scum like me.

I see now why so many historical governments chose the easier road of lying to their people. You all make it so easy to be lied to.