The Shrine

Replay wrote:What part is making you laugh?

The human misery and suffering, or the concept that people should know their Constitutional rights when dealing with police?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flex_Your_Rights

Can't it be both? You also forgot to imply I hate black people.

As much as I like visiting crazytown with our resident nutcase, my chuckle was due to the fact that Freddie Gray clearly didn't follow Rule 7.

And holy shit Billy has aged badly since the youtube vids.

And you forgot to call me a Nazi anti-Semite! Looks like we're both a little rusty today, hey?

And as much as I like visiting sadismtown with our resident sociopath, I want to retch when I see anyone dancing on a dead man's grave.

In point of fact, I don't recall that I've implied that you hated black people. Palestinians, yes - black people, no. There are no anti-black bigots on this board; if there were, we'd have known early on. Blackage posted here for years and Eric still does.

I understand your confusion -- you think because I replied to a thread, I was talking or directing to you. You think I am interested in ....debating/fighting you. All incorrect.

I also realize now you have trouble understanding what people write - so I have included helpful links in my previous post. You're welcome.

PS - For the record...I probably am racist. We should talk about that - it would be a more interesting subject than you simply ranting for no reason.

kali o. wrote:I understand your confusion -- you think because I replied to a thread, I was talking or directing to you. You think I am interested in ....debating/fighting you. All incorrect.

Yes, clearly that's why you hopped on the Warren thread to talk shit to me.

You're just not interested HERE in me returning the favor.

Finding out that you self-identify as racist though, not a terrible surprise. Feel free to expound on it at great length. Maybe it will help me explain your alexithymia to me at long last!

If I had "problems understanding what people write" you wouldn't have a problem with me, my problem and yours is that I understand you far too well, Kal. But please hold forth on race if you like.

Replay wrote:

kali o. wrote:I understand your confusion -- you think because I replied to a thread, I was talking or directing to you. You think I am interested in ....debating/fighting you. All incorrect.

Yes, clearly that's why you hopped on the Warren thread to talk shit to me.

No kiddo. Its your illness that makes you think people are focused on you. I responded in that thread to agree with zeus (though he used the term "Rockstar"...I think celebrity is more accurate).

Now, if you want to stop derailing your own thread with your pathetic petty nonsense, you can create a thread on racism/racist prejudices...maybe Ill participate.

kali o. wrote:No kiddo. Its your illness that makes you think people are focused on you.

Kali, I had been leaving you alone for weeks, and indeed I felt like everyone here was better for it. YOU hopped on the Warren thread to derail me, but you're now pretending you didn't do it. Please don't give me this bullshit that you were "just there to agree with Zeus"; you said something incredibly provocative and disrespectful as soon as I voiced my opposition to Clinton; but you don't even seem to remember you said it now.

Thank GOD you can't vote in the United States, is all I can say on that.

As regards THIS thread - if a dead black man is something that makes you laugh because he "forgot the rules" and ran from the police, I stand my opinion that you have nothing at ALL to tell me about psychological wellness. There are no surprises here in the larger sense at all. You have always sided with either apathy, corruption, or both, as long as I have known you.

You have had a pathological need to shit on me on the site I founded for what approaches fifteen years now; but when pressed on any of it, you retreat back into too-cool mode while refusing to discuss the issues and attacking me personally over and over again. I can still recall the first time it happened - back in 2001, or 2002, when I came back to the site the first time when I was back at school - I was angry about either the impending Iraq War plans, or the Kyoto Protocols aftermath, I don't recall which - but I do remember that you more or less laughed in my face and the entire site's - telling me how unimportant this place was and how silly I was to place so much stock in an Internet discussion. I could go through the archives and pull up all the times you have hopped on my threads to just to attack me, but I won't - you aren't self-aware enough to realize it or see it.

My guess is you will pretend it didn't happen - just as you pretended this thread didn't happen, and accused me of "making it up" until I dredged it up a few weeks ago. Since then, you have had nothing to say on the issue, just as you repeatedly go silent when I ask why you twisted the incident that resulted in your moderatorship originally to accuse me of "fag-bashing" - there being no gain in your "war of words" to admit you were wrong.

It is amazing how the tune on "respect" has changed since Brendan made you a moderator here...or, possibly, it isn't all that amazing. Now that you actually have what you perceive as respect and power here, we should all give YOU respect, at least in your eyes - I still can't tell whether or not your long history of bullying behavior is due to self-esteem issues on your part, or a deeper alexithymia that is indicative of a basic inability to feel compassion or empathy for others.

Quite frankly, I don't think YOU will change until you grow up and mature - and that probably won't happen. You remind me of Nixon in many ways; you will do anything to win your "war of words" except taking a legitimate hard look at the facets of YOUR behavior that provoke these endless fights.

If you don't want to deal with me, then leave my threads alone.

You said once that you "don't have the option" to ignore me; but that is in fact untrue - other than moderator issues and duties, I HAVE been doing my best for a month or more now to leave you alone and correspond only with people who seem interested in the issues I bring up.

You don't extend the same respect to me.

And that hypocrisy is at the crux of the issue here; you hold a persistent double standard as regards your behavior. It's perfectly okay for you to hop on threads and say a lot of disrespectful things, in your eyes, because you either feel you are right, or simply want to do it; but woe betide anyone else who acts as you do.

Not going to read all that nonsense.

I didn't reply to you in this thread. I made a comment. The world doesn't revolve around you.

/shrug

What a surprise. Too long, and you're too lazy, so you didn't read it. Call me shocked.

Well, here's something else you can fail to read because you're lazy and dishonest:

You are still under the impression that I'm here to build a public reputation and make nice with everybody.

I'm not. That's your style, not mine - I didn't found this community to form a public persona or gladhand anybody. I enjoy conversation here with those I can find conversation with in integrity - Seeker, Don, a great many others here over the years. But despite your repeated claims to the contrary, I'm not here for attention in the least. I have more friends than I usually want at any given point in my life; I usually have. I'd much rather be tending my gardens or writing code at any given point than fighting with you as a general rule.

As I told you originally, I came back to keep vigilant over you and Brendan. And that is because 1) this site is still using elements of my original names and designs, and no matter how I ask, Brendan refuses to be respectful and really change the branding here in a way that would make it clear that I have no association with this site or its various piracy issues, and 2) it is my experience that - the old "wisdom" about ignoring one's haters being a fine ethical principle as always - in practice, people who hate you enough to lie about you behind your back do NOT stop, ever.

And to have a community that would not have organized together or banded together for the most part, except for my early work, contribute in any way to libel like this same thread that I keep bringing up that occurred in my absence is, for whatever reason, the limit with me. I will be HAPPY never to darken your doorstep again, take a few email addresses from anyone who wants to correspond to me outside of the site, and leave; I have before and was happier having done it then - but only if I legitimately know that I don't have a bunch of people calling me a criminal and a "terrorist" behind my back because you don't agree with me.

That doesn't seem like too much to ask.

You hate jews and homosexuals...because you self identify as such (probably weakly justified in any case). You are mentally ill.

Those are facts. Not libel. So fuck you and your motivations no one cares about

Want to try to prove it in court? And stop splitting the threads into fifteen parts, it's making replies miss context.

Here's a short primer on the difference between fact and opinion, if you're interested:

http://www.auburn.edu/~murraba/fact.html

kali o. wrote:Can't it be both? You also forgot to imply I hate black people.

Did you just Dean Winchester me? How dare you! You people are always mischaracterizing my positions..

Oh god, that show. My ex couldn't get enough of it.

No one is going to "Whaddya mean you people?!"?

Damn it...I had a whole skit prepared to galvanize a Replay-led revolt. You guys suck.

*shrug*

Eric and Seek have a point: you really only say most of the shit you say to provoke a reaction out of me, and it's getting old even to me.