Saw The Fellowship for my second time. Zeus you're a moron, I know Tolkien pretty well and while I love the movie its is far from the most adaptable movie ever, heres a few right off my head...

[Flip]

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>- Merry and Pippin didnt meet Frodo that way in the cornfield.
- Frodo sold his house and moved to a new town.
- The chase scene by the river where Frodo jumps on the boat wasnt like that.
- Tom Bombadil wasnt even mentioned at all
- or the Barrow Downs
- or the fact that Pippin got stuck in a tree
- or the whole Old Forest all together
- Arwen isnt in the Fellowship book
- Frodo rode the horse by himself at the river scene in the book.
- Elves should have been more merry and joyful rather than mysterious and serious
- Carrahdhas (or whatever, i'm too lazy to go look it up) was alive, it wasnt Saruman doing the blizzard.
- Weathertop scene wasnt exactly true either, but i guess you have to let hollywood jazz some things up.
- I dont think Aragorn killed the Orc leader, but was instead killed by the leader of the Riders of Rohan in the Two Towers.
- The sword that was once broken was shown... but it was not shown that Aragorn had it reforged and uses it, which is a big deal since its the reason why he goes to Gondor in the Two Towers.
- and other little things that i guess are hardly worth mentioning.

bottom line is that it is not 90% like you stated. i know this is in response to a post a long ways down but i didnt post or read over winter break, so i only just read it.

dont get me wrong, i realize its impossible to have everything but some of these things could have been put in rather easily. Like i said, i love the movie and i think i'm going to go see it again next week since i have some friends who still havent ^_^

--Flip

<b>Spoiler Message:<b>
<span style="background: black; color: black;">The Ents are gonna be absolutely awesome in the Two Towers, its the thing i'm most excited about to see.</span></div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Tom Bombadil is kind of an interesting character. He seems super powerful, but he's only mentioned in Book One, right?</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>yeah, i think Gandalf once said that next to Treebeard, Tom is the oldest creature in Middle Earth.</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I'm glad Tom Bombafag wasn't mentioned. He was so fucking pointless.</div>

[Tessian]

<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>You have to realize they have to have the movie be entertaining to those who ahven't read the books.. you have No Hope of being a hit if you don't appeal to everyone; and while everyone SHOULD read these books, they don't.

Most of the things you complain about were taken out cause they weren't that important and the movie's already 3 hours long.. any longer and people wouldn't want to see it.. people can only sit so long through a movie.

The thing about Arwen.. that was needed because if you didn't notice there are.. what, 3.. maybe 5 women in the entire LotR books? You gotta add a love story man.. luckily it was only 5 minutes long.. but it was needed to once again appeal to the mob.

Some things in the movie wouldn't make sense if you didn't know all of the thought process before it..

To wrap things up... the movie was as close to the book as it could have been without losing the non-reader audience. Be realistic</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Best book to screen doesn't necessarily mean most accurate......</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>As mentioned before, the left out scenes weren't necessary. A few details could have been added like Glamdring glowing when Orcs were near. Yet some scenes in the movie were better than some of the pages in the book, like Bilbo wanting to hold the One Ring one last time.</div>

[Chockboard]

<div style='font: 10pt arial; text-align: left; '>Tolkien seemed to indicate that Tom Bombadil represents elements of the children's fairy tale he originally intended Lord of the Rings to be. As he wrote it kind of changed, though =).</div>

[Chockboard]

<div style='font: 10pt arial; text-align: left; '>It gave more depth and power to Boromir's death and Strider's subsequent acceptance of his responsibilities and legacy. Though I think they definitely should have had Glamdring glow when Orcs were around, and I dunno how they're going to get around not mentioning the reforging of the Blade That Was Broken.

Then again, I'm just a sucker for cool-sounding weapons =). My favorite line from the Hobbit was actually only in the animated movie: "I know that blade! It's name is Glamdring, the Foe-Hammer! Glaaaaarrrrgh!!!"</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>FotR ended rather abruptly in the book. I mean...they got on the boats, saw the guardian statues....the end? =8^U</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Braveheart was also a book before it was a movie. It's fairly accurate too, there are a few changes from the book to movie, a few scenes left out.</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>i know they are supposed to be magical, immortal folk. so they have some right to be mysterious/serious, but i think the movie took it too far. i remember in the book (and the Hobbit) that whenever they entered a forest inhabited with elves there was always whispers and laughing and all around jollyness, even playful if you will. the elves in the movie disappointed me, except for Legolas and especially Galadriel. i remember a line in the book when Frodo offers her the ring and she says "Then you would have a Dark Queen in stead of a Dark Lord" and that was pretty much it. The whole morphing this was strange and i couldnt understand what she was saying during it. she also has one of the Three and that wasnt mentioned in the movie. The Lorien scene altogether, now that i think about it, could have been redone. oh well, i'm bitching too much about a movie that i liked, i'll stop now.


--Flip</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>It was hinted in the book about how she reacted and spoke when Frodo offered her the One Ring : that she spoke louder and even frightened Frodo. And she did say "ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR! <Phoebe from Friends>ohh....I pass the test!<Phoebe>"</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>At the beginning of the movie when it shows the "Three Rings Given to the Elf Lords", it shows Galadriel.



ONLY IF YOU'VE READ THE SILMARILLION, read below, otherwise, it might not make much sense.

Other than that, Galadriel is an Elf of much power, possibly the oldest Elf in Middle Earth, and daughter of Finarfinand Earwin, who is a daghter to one of the three first Elves to Awaken. She also lived on the Western Shores and had the light of Valinor in her eyes. Speaking of which, the Silmarils were the only remaining objects that held the light, and all of them were lost. The Phial of Galadriel is the one treasure remaining in Middle Earth which held the light of the Silmarils, and is an artifact of a lot of power, as will be seen in The Return of the King when Sam and Frodo use it to destroy the Watchers of Minas Morgul.

Anyways, the scene happened the same as it did in the book, I forget if she showed Frodo the Ring or not, but in the Return of the King it is at least revealed that the three Rings that were given to the Elves were given to, Gil-Galad who passed it on to Elrond at his death at the end of the second age, Cirdan, master of the Grey Havens who gave his ring to andalf on his arrival, and Galadriel who still keeps her ring. They were all hidden from Sauron.</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>After reading Tolkiens notes extensivly, I just used simple logic to piece together who Tom Bombadil was.

Well, first of all, it is mentioned in Tolkiens notes that he is the oldest creature of Arda, and it is also mentioned in Lord of the Rings that he would only succumb when all else was covered in Darkness. Which includes the lands of the Gods, the Valar and the Maiar. Tolkiens notes mention he is a person of great power who cares not for the ongoings of the outside world, the fact that Sauron Exists is a very minor thing to him. He does not destroy things on the basis that they are good or Evil. In the Lord of the Rings, the powerful Barrow Wights, rememenents of the Kingdom of Angmar who inhabit the bodies of ancient Kingdoms and people who happen to pass through their downs, to Bombadil, they were nothing, he easily destroyed them. This shows that Bombadil is a person of great power.

It mentions in several places in the Lord of the Rings and Tolkiens notes that Bombadil would not take up arms against Sauron or keep the ring, as neither interests him, and he would see it as sort of a waste of time. Along with previous examples, this shows that he has no cares for the going ons of the world. Along with another point, the Old forest, a place that Bombadil has under his control does not show itself as either being good or Evil. The Wraiths would not pass into it, and the forest was not friendly to the Hobbits. Tom Bombadils creations realm is neither good nor evil.

Lastly, He controlled things through song, and the only other creature in the World that did that was Eru, or Illuvatar. The Prime God, the oldest and most powerful being in Middle Earth. Tom Bombadil is perhaps his Human form which he has inhabited ever since.

Oldest = A
Most Powerful = B
Controls by song = C

Illuvatar = A + B + C, his thoughts created the Valar, and his song which he revealed to the Valar allowed them to create the world

Tom Bombadil = A + B + C, his songs control things very clearly, he is also the oldest and most powerful creature in the world.

All other Beings in the world Do not = A, B, or C as far as Tolkiens notes explain, though in the early times under the direction of Illuvatar, the Valar used songs to create things, and the Maiar aided them, yet after a time, no longer did the Valar have the powers of creation and to control by song, explained in Tolkiens notes and the Silmarillion, they lacked the oversight of Illuvatar, where Illuvatar lived was unknown.

I'm not reading between the lines or anything, no hints of any hidden meanings, it's just how Tolkien wrote it, except, he did not explain Tom Bombadil is Illuvatar directly. Read the Forward in Lord of the Rings for more information on Tolkiens writing beliefs.</div>

[Lee]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>The last thing I needed in that movie was a bunch of jolly fag-elves.  I didn't mind their seriousness, but I could have done without all their super-holy bathed in light bullshit.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>I think Flip wanted to hear Legolas sing like a fairy.</div>

[ManaMan]

<div style='font: 12pt Helvetica; text-align: left; '>Tom Bombadil was a doll Tolkein's daughter kept. He put Tom in the story strictly to mess up the continuity.</div>

[ManaMan]

<div style='font: 12pt Helvetica; text-align: left; '>Yeah but you have a Limp Bizkit sig, who cares.</div>

[Chockboard]

<div style='font: 10pt arial; text-align: left; '>The second I hear that damn "Frodo of the Nine Fingers" song, it's war, I tell you, WAR!!!</div>

[Stephen]

<div style='font: 10pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Right, right, we all know how understanding who Tom Bombadil was is vital to appreciating the books. He was the glue that held FoTR together.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Son's doll.</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>The fact that they showed her getting one of the three rings keeps the continuity with the story. Did you really want them to go on about what happened to the dwafs, elf, and human rings as well? I wouldn't, it's not really relevant, just like Tom Bombadil and the Bradybucks Marsh. It might be neat for fans as a toss in, but the film was already 3 hours long and they had to stay focused on the core story. I think they did a very damned good job of that while adding in a helluva lot of little things to help enhance the world of Middle Earth and the creatures that inhabit it</div>

[New and Improved Zeus]

<div style='font: 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Don't forget how they portrayed the world of Middle Earth and the creatures that inhabit it. With all the Tolkien artists and the amazing amounts of notes and stuff out there, I think they did an incredible job and that's what really made the movie for me</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, that's why he was in the book, and maybe where his name came from =)</div>

[Flip]

<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>lol, finely put.</div>

[S.Cody2]

<div style='font: 10pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>But that's the cornerstone of the movie's white-power undertones.</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>No not really, I just wrote this because he was mentioned in the topic statement. He's a very unique and powerful character in the book, Lord of the Rings</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>I'd say something but it would spoil the ending to LotR. =8^D</div>

[Gone to Shakers]

<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>The director couldn't have done a better job on the movie in the 3 hour time frame and with the resources he had.</div>

[Ishamael]

<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Damn. All of a sudden, everyone is an expert at every abstract peice of Tolkien history. :)</div>

[Gentz]

<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>Ouch. Attacking the musical tastes. A surefire rebuttal for any argument</div>

[Andrew, Killer Bee]

<div style='font: 9pt verdana; text-align: left; '>That she has one of the three Elven rings was mentioned, at the very beginning. Pay attention! :)</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Not much in the logical reasoning department, but it sure made me laugh.</div>