We're a pretty old bunch, question on sequels!

[Eric]

Are there any games that you wish could get a sequel, that haven't, or won't ever due to the studio closing down, or the franchise not being popular enough?

Are there any games that got sequels that disappointed you to death after you waited a long time for it?(3-5+ years)

And are there any games that got sequels that took a ridiculously long time but you found extremely satisfying?(again 3-5+ years)

[kali o.]

Woah...flashback to Questionaires!

Brigandine. Pretty sure this game has a cult following. It is REALLY good imo (ignore the reviews) and I love these sort of strat rpgs.
Dragon Force. Sure, the gameplay was a little shallow, but the concept could be awesome today.
Culdcept (Saga). You probably either hate or love this series. I love it. Pretty sure there will be a sequel...I just hope it is sooner rather than later (and localized!).
Wizardry. Ok, so there is the MMO, but that's BS. The last proper Wizardry was when...2001 (Japanese spinoffs don't count).
Arcanum. Man, poor Tim Cain. Makes some of the best games, but his studios kept closing. I don't know who holds the rights, but this game needs a sequel (or at least, a spiritual successor). With Obsidian on kickstarter, I wouldn't be totally surprised to see something.
Vampire: The Masquerade. Ok, I think this is a no brainer. The fan mods really improved this game too. Who knows if we will ever see a sequel...the legions of goths and vamp lovers should keep the possibility alive.
Anachronox. Ok, probably the best game no one played -- and that's why there will likely never be a sequel (I *think* square-enix probably has the rights...and when do they ever do the smart thing).

I don't remember the games that "disappointed" me, so I can't answer that one.

And hey, if you haven't played any of the above games, try em. Some of them may not have aged well (Wizardry and maybe Brigandine) but they are all worth playing.

[Eric]

Wizardry, holy shit that's taking me back.

[Shrinweck]

Arcanum.

Chris Avellone was 'sentenced' to playing this game as a stretch goal in one of Obsidian's Kickstarter's so they know it's still out there. Watching him die to the wolves in the beginning was so fucking funny. I remember being in middle school and having that shit happen to me. And he just kept hitting his head against that wall. AFAIK he eventually created a new character and plowed through the rest of the game in a Let's Play.

Planescape Torment would have been number one on my list for games in this category but they knocked the Kickstarter out of the park and gathered the most money in a video game Kickstarter to date. So in any case, they're still aware of Arcanum being out there but don't see this getting anything other than a spiritual successor. The world could certainly be expanded upon though and God damn that music - so good. I wonder who even holds the rights to Arcanum.. Troika's founders are kind of scattered. With Obisidan's two projects already in the works (and they're working on Wasteland 2 on the side AND Avellone is working on the new Torment game), I don't see anything happening with this any time soon :(

Wasteland 2 is another game that could have always used a sequel but because of rights issues was never made (hence Fallout 1 & 2) that they somehow secured to rights to and are making because of Kickstarter. This is the closest we'll ever see to a Fallout 3 that's more in line with the previous games.

Where are you Half-Life 3? (technically been 3-5+ years... :D )

I want a spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate. I'm sure Project Eternity will scratch that itch but it won't be the same. Once they're done with Project Eternity I could see the engine being cannibalized by a proper Arcanum/Baldur's Gate successor.

CCP is working on a World of Darkness MMORPG so at least there'll be games in the same setting as Vampire Masquerade/Bloodlines. I always found the inner politics and such in these series to be the best part by far so anything in that world will be as satisfying for me as a spiritual successor/sequel..

I always loved the setting in Freelancer and would have bought a sequel to that up in a flash.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution is probably THE example for a game that took a long ass time to get a sequel after they basically killed the story off to anything but prequels and reboots in Deus Ex Invisible War. I guess they could pull one of the endings out of their ass and go running like they did in Invisible War, but even then I'm not sure how they'd work it.

Tribes Ascend also did a brilliant job of capturing the old game's essence.

[Eric]

Herp Derp, didn't answer my own thread.

Are there any games that you wish could get a sequel, that haven't, or won't ever due to the studio closing down, or the franchise not being popular enough?

Kinda bending the rules here, but Kali started it with Wizardry ;p Also you stole Dragon Force, one of the games that got me excited about the Saturn. Also just thinking about it, I've got RPGs on the brain.

RTS Warcraft, due to WoW I doubt you ever see a proper WCIV unless WoW actually dies one day and they need to reboot the lore for a new MMO.
2D Metroid, probably never again, especially after Other-M
Final Fantasy Tactics, a proper sequel, not those BS Gameboy games we got about 5 year old school children reading a novel, I want politics, religion, gods, dark twists, and characters I will remember and give a damn about, but alas, this franchise seems dead, and with Square shifting focus to mobile phones I doubt we get much outside of the main branch FF for a while.
Phantasy Star IV, once considered the Final Fantasy rival, PS5 will probably never happen, just the MMOs and spin-offs such we've been getting.
Skies of Arcadia 2, we'll never see this, which is a goddamn shame.
Guardian Heroes, loved this game almost impulse bought a Saturn because of it.
Chrono Trigger, not much needs to be said here.
Terranigma, I don't know what happened to the Actraiser/Illusion of Gaia/Terranigma group, but I loved these games.
Alundra, again, proper sequel, not the hot garbage that was Alundra 2. x_x
Secret of Mana, dead and burried, became too convoluted and lost it's soul
Lufia, ruined by remakes and soulless sequels.
Shining Force, I have entirely too many RPGs on this list already.
Valkyrie Profile, dead right? ((((

Are there any games that got sequels that disappointed you to death after you waited a long time for it?(3-5+ years)

Megaman 9/10, fuck you Capcom.
Final Fantasy XIII, disappointing does about sum it up, I took particular issue with the fact that they basically slapped a UI(fight, magic, etc) onto a scene in a trailer which they originally said was gameplay(turned out to be a cut-scene).
Diablo 3, ruined by the Auction House, Insanity difficulty was stupid and the combination of requiring a gear grind + the real $$$ AH, and AH in general was meh. >_<

And are there any games that got sequels that took a ridiculously long time but you found extremely satisfying?(again 3-5+ years)

Metal Gear Solid? Is this cheating lol.
Street Fighter IV, almost 10 years, and it's an instant classic and revitalized the fighting game scene.
Marvel vs Capcom 3, more then 10 years god bless you Capcom, and Ultimate, I don't care, I love this game and still play it, most addicting fighting game I've played.
Deus Ex: HR, again I thought this franchise was dead, but this game I felt did the brand justice, I was happy to play it, and was hoping it was the blueprint for more things to come, and improvements to a modern Deus Ex, sadly it looks like it's gonna be on a phone, and who knows where else after that. >.>
Starcraft 2, met and exceeded my expectations.

[Blotus]

Some crossover.

Are there any games that you wish could get a sequel, that haven't, or won't ever due to the studio closing down, or the franchise not being popular enough?

I always think I want a sequel to River City Ransom, but whatever they (whoever!) would do would never live up to expectations. The Warriors (PS2/Xbox) was probably the best beat-em-up that followed.
I'd like to play a new Romance of the Three Kingdoms, but something with a more streamlined approach, better UI, and enjoyable battles (no, not Dynasty Warriors).
Chrono Trigger, obviously.
Suikoden 6.
Valkyria Chronicles (non-PSP versions). I thought I'd include Valkyrie Profile as well, but I enjoyed the premise of those games way more than the actual games, and never finished either.
FFTactics that's not a shitty GBA title with blue dogs or whatever starring an 8 year-old.
Dragon Force/Guardian Heroes, the only two Saturn games that I could imagine enjoying today. There was a Japan-only sequel to DF, but apparently it wasn't as good.
Shenmue, only as a curiosity. There would have to be sailors. On second thought, it would probably be awful.
Flower. Just give me more levels.
Pixeljunk Monsters. Just give me more levels.
Offline KOTOR.

I clearly didn't play many Western games back in the day. Now I barely play any Japanese games.

Are there any games that got sequels that disappointed you to death after you waited a long time for it?(3-5+ years)

Dragon Age 2 didn't come out much longer after the first, but that was still disappointing.
Similarly, Suikoden 4 wasn't very good, but also wasn't 3-5 years behind the excellent and underrated (in the pantheon of fan acclaim) S3.
And again, KOTOR2 wasn't that far behind the first, but it still was not as good. OBSIDIAN!
FF13, duh.
Uh....

And are there any games that got sequels that took a ridiculously long time but you found extremely satisfying?(again 3-5+ years)

I guess XCOM, though I never played the original(s), and never will because they look like hot garbage. Don't care if the new one is "for console babies", it's awesome. And I want a new one now. Apparently, they're working on something. I think it was at Gamescom last year they showed a short teaser with the Council dude implying such.
Similarly, Fallout 3. Never played 1 or 2, never will. Gimme 4. New Vegas ruined itself for me with multiple bugs, including freezes during the very last mission of the game. OBSIDIAN!
SF4. Played the shit out of it and Super. Stopped there. I'm good now.

[kali o.]

I guess XCOM, though I never played the original(s), and never will because they look like hot garbage.
Similarly, Fallout 3. Never played 1 or 2, never will.

You are lucky the technology to stab people in the face through their monitor doesn't exist, cuz if it did, I'm be slamming that button like an epileptic on speed.

I still occasionally revisit XCOM games (modded) and Fallout 1/2 (2 moreso). Epic games that are still great today.

[Blotus]

You are lucky the technology to stab people in the face through their monitor doesn't exist, cuz if it did, I'm be slamming that button like an epileptic on speed.

I still occasionally revisit XCOM games (modded) and Fallout 1/2 (2 moreso). Epic games that are still great today.

Yeah, yeah. I don't have the nostalgic connection to earlier games, so they'd never be as good to me. I don't need to micromanage the type of underpants that my XCOM scientists wear.

[kali o.]

I don't need to micromanage the type of underpants that my XCOM scientists wear.

B-B-But....THAT'S THE BEST PART!!!!

(its really not like that though, seriously, give it a shot. Hell, just download a free copy)

[Don]

The only old series I like to see continued is Langrisser because it occupies a pretty unique niche (crazy SRPG). If you want just a good SRPG Fire Emblem has that genre locked up pretty tight anyway. Everything else seems to have their modern successors, except XCOM but I have no idea how a modern version of XCOM is going to work at all.

XCOM gets pretty boring once you can mind control stuff since you'll pretty much never lose another person at that point, but it's pretty intense when you're trying to just survive until you can research the technology to do so. The micromanagement part of XCOM is pretty much useless but that's why it's fun. All you really need is the mind control device and maybe a homing missile (though most of the time you can pick one up from an alien you just mind controlled). That didn't stop me from figuring how many grenades and ammunition and everything else each guy should be carrying, even though you almost never need it. It's true fights in XCOM are usually very lopsided one way or another, but the fun of the game is when you go through your bag and found an Alien Grenade when you got no ammo left and that happened to kill an Etheral or whatever dangerous terror type alien.

[Shrinweck]

I guess XCOM, though I never played the original(s), and never will because they look like hot garbage.
Similarly, Fallout 3. Never played 1 or 2, never will.

You are lucky the technology to stab people in the face through their monitor doesn't exist, cuz if it did, I'm be slamming that button like an epileptic on speed.

I still occasionally revisit XCOM games (modded) and Fallout 1/2 (2 moreso). Epic games that are still great today.

I went back and actually beat Fallout 1 for the first time something like three or four years ago and still loved it. I was too young to really get how to be any good at it when it first came out. Fallout 2 is much more playable these days and because of the type of game it is it really doesn't suffer from being old as hell. Same with Planescape Torment and Baldur's Gate 2.

I know it's a game for casuals but Plants Vs Zombies is finally getting a sequel and that almost certainly can't be a bad thing.

[Blotus]

(its really not like that though, seriously, give it a shot. Hell, just download a free copy)

NEVER

I know it's a game for casuals but Plants Vs Zombies is finally getting a sequel and that almost certainly can't be a bad thing.

Get him, Eric.

[Eric]

I know it's a game for casuals but Plants Vs Zombies is finally getting a sequel and that almost certainly can't be a bad thing.

Get him, Eric.

Micro-transactions might ruin this game, and it's ipad/ipod exclusive for some retarded reason initially.

[Shrinweck]

Uh, okay?

[Blotus]

I was joking. Eric is full of hate.

[Shrinweck]

Clearly :D

[Eric]

[SineSwiper]

I'm still going to hark on this game and break your 3-5 year rule: Alternate Reality. Such ambitions for this series, and Price even had an MMO (Alternate Reality Online) in the works, but The Matrix ultimately killed the whole idea.

Yeah, and I repeat what many has said about FFT. I thought FFTA was very disappointing in terms of story.

I always think I want a sequel to River City Ransom, but whatever they (whoever!) would do would never live up to expectations.

You mean Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World (the game)? Because that's exactly what it is and yes, it does live up to its expectations. I've beat it many times already, and it's really fun as a multiplayer game, too. They finally put out online support in the last couple of months.

[Zeus]

Umm, we did get a Chrono Trigger sequel. A direct one, actually. It was called Chrono Cross and it was released for the PS1. Phenomenal game. In fact, there was supposed to be a third one called Chrono Break that was scheduled for the PS2 but was cancelled. Bloody shame.

And we will hopefully be getting our 2D Metroid fix with AM2R soon enough. The guy's getting close but has hardly done anything in the last year. Speaking of fan-made games, there's a Mother 4 out there. I wonder how it'll turn out.

Suikoden is basically dead. You MAY get another DS one if Konami sees fit but I would expect a re-release first, if anything. Same with Dragon Force, ain't no one gonna do that translation. And there was Advance Guardian Heroes :-)

Alundra sequel would rule but that'll never happen. Hell, a lot of the Working Designs games could use a sequel, like Lunar (not the crappy DS one) and Elemental Gearbolt. We got the Growlanser and Arc the Lad ones but they weren't particularly good. A downloadable Silhouette Mirage would be awesome.

Sticking with Treasure, another Radiant Silvergun would be amazing.

I'm amazed no one mentioned The World Ends With You.

I personally would love to see a Pac Pix or Pac Man Vs sequel but that ain't gonna happen. Namco don't love us that much. A new Pac Man Championship Edition would be amazing, though.

[bovine]

Persona 5
Homeworld 3

I enjoyed the Syndicate reboot, even if popular opinion and sales did the opposite. It more than likely crushed the possibility of a bright future for the IP, but in my perfect world there could coexist both top-down strategy syndicates and action oriented FPS syndicates and I could finally know happiness.

[Oracle]

Are there any games that got sequels that disappointed you to death after you waited a long time for it?(3-5+ years)

Duke Nukem Forever

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[bovine]

Are there any games that got sequels that disappointed you to death after you waited a long time for it?(3-5+ years)

Duke Nukem Forever

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I'm sure there was at least one person on this forum (with egregious taste) that liked that game.

[Flip]

I liked it, it was pretty fun.

[Zeus]

I liked it, it was pretty fun.

IT WAS FLIP! :-)

[Blotus]

Umm, we did get a Chrono Trigger sequel. A direct one, actually. It was called Chrono Cross

I want another one.
I liked Cross a lot when I first played it, but it didn't hold up for me years later. The music is still STUNNINGLY good, though.

[Zeus]

Umm, we did get a Chrono Trigger sequel. A direct one, actually. It was called Chrono Cross

I want another one.
I liked Cross a lot when I first played it, but it didn't hold up for me years later. The music is still STUNNINGLY good, though.

I loved it. Just under the original, Panzer Saga, and FF3/6j IMO. I was so excited for Chrono Break but it just disappeared and was never talked about again. Square could so easily just do it for the 3DS. Low risk with brand recognition and the ability for developers to have a lot of creative freedom? It just makes sense.

But that's why it'll never come out

[Flip]

Umm, we did get a Chrono Trigger sequel. A direct one, actually. It was called Chrono Cross

I want another one.
I liked Cross a lot when I first played it, but it didn't hold up for me years later. The music is still STUNNINGLY good, though.

That game has one of the best opening themes out of any game in existence, for sure.

[SineSwiper]

Aye. Have a few Chrono Cross songs on my phone for ringtones. The ending was kinda weird, and yeah, it wasn't quite as memorable as the first one. But, the gameplay was a lot better than CT, and some aspects of the story were quite cool (like Chronopolis and the origin of the dragons).

[Don]

Of course Cross's music is good. It's composed by the same guy! The problem with Cross is that similar to Suikoden it's never clear how you random mix of 30 guys are even related to whatever's going currently going on.

[Anarky]

Of course Cross's music is good. It's composed by the same guy! The problem with Cross is that similar to Suikoden it's never clear how you random mix of 30 guys are even related to whatever's going currently going on.

THIS!

This is why Cross is not a great sequel

[Eric]

Of course Cross's music is good. It's composed by the same guy! The problem with Cross is that similar to Suikoden it's never clear how you random mix of 30 guys are even related to whatever's going currently going on.

It really only ends up being 4 you care about right? Surge, Kid, Lynx, and Harley Quinn(Whatever her name was). ;p

[Don]

Kid and Harle usually are more like "Don't look at me, I have no idea why I am here". They don't really say anything relevent to the story. Serge, unlike Crono, doesn't act, despite both being totally silent. You never get the feeling that Serge has any motivation in all this. If he wasn't the Chrono Trigger he'd probably just continue fishing or whatever. I don't think he even likes Kid, and of course you don't even have to have Kid in your party at all except she magically shows up at the end. The whole story might as well be Schala calling out to ther fanbase because she was never given a chance to be rescued in Chrono Trigger. That's how superficial the entire game felt like.

[Zeus]

Of course Cross's music is good. It's composed by the same guy! The problem with Cross is that similar to Suikoden it's never clear how you random mix of 30 guys are even related to whatever's going currently going on.

It really only ends up being 4 you care about right? Surge, Kid, Lynx, and Harley Quinn(Whatever her name was). ;p

I have no issue with a game that 4 great characters and 26 that are useless. Who cares about the 26?

And yes, the opening theme song is amazing. In general, the music was great.

[Don]

Of course Cross's music is good. It's composed by the same guy! The problem with Cross is that similar to Suikoden it's never clear how you random mix of 30 guys are even related to whatever's going currently going on.

It really only ends up being 4 you care about right? Surge, Kid, Lynx, and Harley Quinn(Whatever her name was). ;p

I have no issue with a game that 4 great characters and 26 that are useless. Who cares about the 26?

And yes, the opening theme song is amazing. In general, the music was great.

The problem is that 3 out of the 4 main characters don't even sound like they've any idea what the heck is going on, and of course if you actually didn't include them in your party it's even more hilarious.