Yeah I'm familiar with that but that shit isn't fun and it shouldn't be a part of the game. The 141s it constantly pairs me against are Patch, IM40, Punisher, Magneto, widow, spider-man, black panther, lazy thor, lazy captain america.. I'm seeing basically all of them except Psylocke, Hood and Loki.
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If your character levels are close to 141, it's not unusual to be paired against character of that level.
I have maxed two stars and my highest three star is 79. Just can't compete.
There's a whole mess of teams that look like featured + OBW + 141 and OBW is included by choice, not because they couldn't find someone else that is level 141.
The bigger problem is that if you don't have anyone at 141 then everyone usually attacks you first. I guess if you don't have Punisher at 141 (probably easiest character to get just because it was raining Punisher covers for a while) getting someone to 141 might take a while. You can always use HP to upgrade the covers if you're close to it though.
The bigger problem is that if you don't have anyone at 141 then everyone usually attacks you first. I guess if you don't have Punisher at 141 (probably easiest character to get just because it was raining Punisher covers for a while) getting someone to 141 might take a while. You can always use HP to upgrade the covers if you're close to it though.
So I'm thinking...I have my Panther maxed and my Punisher almost maxed and I am still really struggling. I'm not really sure where to go from here. If my team goes off, it goes off spectacularly, but if not it can go south really fast. I'm not really sure where I go from here. I am 4 covers away from having max covers for lazy thor, and 2 covers away from Torch, but I'm not convinced that either of them are the way to go either. I never have gotten a spidy yellow cover, and I have a handfull of other 3* characters at 5-7 covers, I just don't know what direction to go in.
If you're talking about PvP, almost all the teams on the top are equally strong so it can easily go the wrong way too. Outside of Magneto you're not going to find anyone that lets you win very easily against high level opposition, and Magneto is going to get nerfed anyway and he is somewhat weak on defense. Thor is probably the strongest character in the game, but even he takes a good beating fighting someone like Punisher if not backed by Magneto.
Though if you have high level characters, you don't have to compete hard for every PvP event either. I only compete for top 10 on the ones that have heroes I need. Otherwise a top 25 finish gets you the same HP (100) as #1.
Though if you have high level characters, you don't have to compete hard for every PvP event either. I only compete for top 10 on the ones that have heroes I need. Otherwise a top 25 finish gets you the same HP (100) as #1.
Remainder: The Mayhem nodes are unlocked and award a red Sentry cover for completing. If you haven't done it yet, you should now.
One of the forum guys with 80 characters was doing some testing with PvP and it seems like the game will adjust your matchup if you actually won something with a weak enough team enough times. That is, suppose you have a maxed out roster but you switched to only 2* characters, after winning a few games (might take a few tries) the game will match you up against other 2*s. Of course if you switch back to your 3*s then it will quickly readjust again. I assume this is done because it used to readjust based on losing but then people just purposely lose early on and given you take reduced point loss at lower level, it is possible to lose enough games to hit about 500 and then only have weak opponents for the climb to 900s which gives you a huge advantage. This does sound quite plausible. I'm not sure how your featured character comes into play. It might be ignored for the purpose of this (since otherwise everyone will always play the max difficulty because the featured character is always a 3*).
So if your 3* is still on the weak side for competing against 3*s, it might be a good idea to use only 2*s as your two non featured guy.
So if your 3* is still on the weak side for competing against 3*s, it might be a good idea to use only 2*s as your two non featured guy.
I'm feeling disillusioned by how dumb this game's community is and that the devs seem to actually listen to the same community. It's like some sort of freak accident the game was ever good in the first place (and in fact, very good). It's like this game was designed by idiots who accidentally did everything right. Whenever you have a character that looks like hope is looming like say, Deadpool, who is very well designed, you're quickly reminded that he must have been an accident because we still have Magneto ending the game on turn 2 some of the time and Sentry ending the game on turn 4 all the time. Every time I see the devs post about the state of the game I have no idea how they were able to build such a great game in the first place, because they literally have no idea what game design even means.
Hey Don, was wondering what you think about the upcoming character changes, as they are defidently a lot more radical than I had expected them to be.
X Force will be the #1 big & dumb character. He might not be the most overpowered but he's got big numbers everything and it's hard to go wrong with a guy with such awesome numbers.
Magneto will be more of a finesse character and the current game prefers big & dumb instead of finesse at least for PvP. It'd take something like removal of all boosts to make finesse/defense actually matter, because starting with 6 AP in 4 colors is just way too much of an advantage for offense.
Hawkeye looks okay but he'll probably still not be as good as Thor overall.
Daken is slightly more mortal compared to before but he'll still be top tier in both PvP and PvE. There will probably be less situations where you get owned by Daken even when they used no moves in the entire game because his match damage is just insane.
Sentry is still the top dog of PvP, though most people are too scared to use him except during shield hopping. He's pretty much the best in PvP under all circumstances because the self damage you take is significantly less than the damage you'd almost certainly take if you let the game drag out longer. After that you got X Force, and then it's probably a rough tie between Thor/Black Panther/Daken. Though PvP isn't strictly about using the most powerful you have due to the forced character restriction. The Hood is always a wildcard as he's one of the most powerful character but awfully hard to keep alive for any period of time unless you're pairing him with Black Panther, but that combination likely has some serious color coverage issues. Note that X Force + Sentry doesn't make too much sense because X Force can't make strike tiles.
Magneto will be more of a finesse character and the current game prefers big & dumb instead of finesse at least for PvP. It'd take something like removal of all boosts to make finesse/defense actually matter, because starting with 6 AP in 4 colors is just way too much of an advantage for offense.
Hawkeye looks okay but he'll probably still not be as good as Thor overall.
Daken is slightly more mortal compared to before but he'll still be top tier in both PvP and PvE. There will probably be less situations where you get owned by Daken even when they used no moves in the entire game because his match damage is just insane.
Sentry is still the top dog of PvP, though most people are too scared to use him except during shield hopping. He's pretty much the best in PvP under all circumstances because the self damage you take is significantly less than the damage you'd almost certainly take if you let the game drag out longer. After that you got X Force, and then it's probably a rough tie between Thor/Black Panther/Daken. Though PvP isn't strictly about using the most powerful you have due to the forced character restriction. The Hood is always a wildcard as he's one of the most powerful character but awfully hard to keep alive for any period of time unless you're pairing him with Black Panther, but that combination likely has some serious color coverage issues. Note that X Force + Sentry doesn't make too much sense because X Force can't make strike tiles.
Hey Don, I need some advice from you. I am really struggling to decide what character I should look to level up next. I currently have maxed out lazy Thor, Panther, and Punisher. I am closest to having full covers for CMags, 3*HT, Hulk, and Falcon. I really want to level 3* Daken, but I only have 5 covers for him right now so he isn't as viable of a choice. I also have a handful of other characters in the 7-9 cover range, including XForce. Just was wondering your thoughts,
X Force is good if you have 5 black as that's his defining ability. He doesn't need a huge amount of levels either and actually you don't want X Force past around level 220 or so (that's when his match damage becomes higher than any 3*) because his highest color is green which is very bad in any X Force mirror match as Surgical Strike murders any team with green as strongest color.
Sentry is by far the strongest character in PvP but they just announced in comic con he'll be nerfed so I guess it's not the best time to try to get on the bandwagon. After Sentry, The Hood is likely the strongest PvP character, though with boosts dropping again this means you can use all your +match damage boost on him which makes him easier to deal with (+AP boosts vs The Hood is very dangerous). The character you have maxed looks pretty solid for PvP. Magneto goes well with X Force and The Hood but seems like you got neither. He's not a bad character after the nerf but he's more finesse and needs to one of those two characters around him to make full use of his board controlling abilities. If you have Daken with 5 purple covers you should get Falcon for PvE because Falcon only needs someone who can create a lot of strike tile and their strength is actually fairly irrelevent as long as they're there. If none of those options are available I'd just save iso for X Force until you have 5 black to get him to around level 200 range (have to check boards or a wiki site for the exact level where his match damage passes a level 166 3*) since that'd still require a lot of iso. Thor/Panther/Punisher should be able to brute force everything but the trickiest PvE nodes and is adequate for PvP except against Sentry or The Hood.
For X Force, put whatever color the X Force team isn't strong on in middle (or left, if featured isn't available) with your best character, so it'd be either Thor for red or Panther for yellow. Punisher is black which is okay for attacking, but is horribly for defense because they'll just use Surgical Strike to kill Punisher, and then get refunded another Surgical Strike which is now on a different color. On offense the AI doesn't do anything clever so you can limit the damage from Surgical Strike to just one strong hit with black, but usually red/yellow would be safer because it's pretty hard for a X Force team to cover these covers because the guys who are good on these color don't synergize well with X Force. For example you could have Sentry, but Sentry + X Force is really overkill on power.
Sentry is by far the strongest character in PvP but they just announced in comic con he'll be nerfed so I guess it's not the best time to try to get on the bandwagon. After Sentry, The Hood is likely the strongest PvP character, though with boosts dropping again this means you can use all your +match damage boost on him which makes him easier to deal with (+AP boosts vs The Hood is very dangerous). The character you have maxed looks pretty solid for PvP. Magneto goes well with X Force and The Hood but seems like you got neither. He's not a bad character after the nerf but he's more finesse and needs to one of those two characters around him to make full use of his board controlling abilities. If you have Daken with 5 purple covers you should get Falcon for PvE because Falcon only needs someone who can create a lot of strike tile and their strength is actually fairly irrelevent as long as they're there. If none of those options are available I'd just save iso for X Force until you have 5 black to get him to around level 200 range (have to check boards or a wiki site for the exact level where his match damage passes a level 166 3*) since that'd still require a lot of iso. Thor/Panther/Punisher should be able to brute force everything but the trickiest PvE nodes and is adequate for PvP except against Sentry or The Hood.
For X Force, put whatever color the X Force team isn't strong on in middle (or left, if featured isn't available) with your best character, so it'd be either Thor for red or Panther for yellow. Punisher is black which is okay for attacking, but is horribly for defense because they'll just use Surgical Strike to kill Punisher, and then get refunded another Surgical Strike which is now on a different color. On offense the AI doesn't do anything clever so you can limit the damage from Surgical Strike to just one strong hit with black, but usually red/yellow would be safer because it's pretty hard for a X Force team to cover these covers because the guys who are good on these color don't synergize well with X Force. For example you could have Sentry, but Sentry + X Force is really overkill on power.
Here is what I have right now, not maxed
XForce - 4/2/3 - lvl 140
CMags - 5/4/3 - lvl 109
HT - 5/4/3 - lvl 81
Patch - 4/1/2 - lvl 81
Psilocke - 4/2/3 - lvl 76
Daken - 1/2/2 - lvl 66
Hulk - 5/3/4 - lvl 62
IM40 - 5/3/3 - lvl 61
BWGS - 5/3/2 - lvl 57
Daredevil - 5/1/2 - lvl 55
Ragnarok - 5/5 - lvl 50
Falcon - 2/2/5 - lvl 50
Hood - 4/3/3 - lvl 45
Lazy Cap - 4/4/1 - lvl 45
Doom - 1/5 - lvl 45
Spidy - 1/2/4 - lvl 43
Sentry - 2/1/0 - lvl 43
Deadpool - 1/1/1 - lvl 43
Lazy Storm - 1/1/1 - lvl 43
Loki - 5/3 - lvl 40
Doc Oct - 1/0/1 - lvl 40
Beast - 0/1/0 - lvl 40
Cpt Marvel - 0/0/1 - lvl 40
Colossus - 0/1/0 - lvl 40
She Hulk - 0/0/1 - lvl 40
That is my full 3star roster right now
XForce - 4/2/3 - lvl 140
CMags - 5/4/3 - lvl 109
HT - 5/4/3 - lvl 81
Patch - 4/1/2 - lvl 81
Psilocke - 4/2/3 - lvl 76
Daken - 1/2/2 - lvl 66
Hulk - 5/3/4 - lvl 62
IM40 - 5/3/3 - lvl 61
BWGS - 5/3/2 - lvl 57
Daredevil - 5/1/2 - lvl 55
Ragnarok - 5/5 - lvl 50
Falcon - 2/2/5 - lvl 50
Hood - 4/3/3 - lvl 45
Lazy Cap - 4/4/1 - lvl 45
Doom - 1/5 - lvl 45
Spidy - 1/2/4 - lvl 43
Sentry - 2/1/0 - lvl 43
Deadpool - 1/1/1 - lvl 43
Lazy Storm - 1/1/1 - lvl 43
Loki - 5/3 - lvl 40
Doc Oct - 1/0/1 - lvl 40
Beast - 0/1/0 - lvl 40
Cpt Marvel - 0/0/1 - lvl 40
Colossus - 0/1/0 - lvl 40
She Hulk - 0/0/1 - lvl 40
That is my full 3star roster right now
Can't do anything interesting with that roster of yours but aside from lacking Sentry and The Hood, it should be sufficient for PvP. You can't fight The Hood without The Hood and you can't fight Sentry without Sentry or X Force, but everyone else is fair game. For PvE as long as you're not facing stuff higher than about level 250 The Hood does not become a dominant force and the maxed character you have should be sufficient. In general scaling in PvE is not favorable to someone with level 166s but that's not something you can change anyway. Just don't have anyone anywhere close to 270 because that's where your scaling gets really messed up. I have a level 270 X Force and it accounts for +20-80 levels on each enemy compared to someone with only level 166 characters and at times, this is simply unplayable. This scaling factor seems to be linear to the number of levels above 166 so if you have a level 210 X Force you'd get roughly half that. Now, X Force is very powerful, but he's definitely not worth +80 levels on everything you fight, which is another good reason to keep him relatively low level.
Gotcha, well I will focus on trying to get black covers for XForce then and try to get him to about 210. Is there anyone else that you think would be worth the time to level at this point with who I have maxed already?
Not with the covers you have. It's usually more of a question of who do you happen to have max covered in this game because covers usually mean more than levels.
As a sidenote despite all the good thing they've done on this game recently I'm getting pretty tired of PvP being run by guys who think they're good and aren't even P2W. It's okay if it's truly P2W like the XMen guys but currently most of PvP is just dominated by guys who run 2 AP+3 2 color boost every fight and end up a PvP event with negative 20K iso (which you make up by grinding in Lightning Rounds), or alternatively (or both) it involves guys dedicated to losing enough to trick the game into giving them cupcake matches. At the highest level of PvP you've considerably less than 50% chance of winning against an equally strong team both because the AI is incredibly strong and that you never start anywhere close to 100% health on all your characters but your opponent sure always do, so you either got to tank really hard or grind iso 8 a ton to use boosts or both. Yet none of this even makes the company any money so it's not even P2W. It's literally just putting a bunch of guy whose value is nothing to the company on the relative top of the PvP ladder, and now they're returning boosts to R62 which doesn't give me much faith they'll ever get rid of boosts.
PvE is like this too if you're on the high end of 3* or in the 4* territory. None of those way overpowered PvE teams are even beatable 50% of the time once they start out at level 200+ and still have all their unfair advantages. Since in PvE you can't lower your scaling by purposely losing this means you must use boosts to keep up.
PvE is like this too if you're on the high end of 3* or in the 4* territory. None of those way overpowered PvE teams are even beatable 50% of the time once they start out at level 200+ and still have all their unfair advantages. Since in PvE you can't lower your scaling by purposely losing this means you must use boosts to keep up.
In a bizarre twist of fate, I'm somehow part of the uber even though I'm usually the guy saying ubers are bad for any game I play. The recent PvE event I finished at #6 and the margin of victory by the #1/#2 (top 2 = best prizes) was the usual complete annihilation that weak 2* roster players have been delivering for the past 2 months or so. So I was ranting about how noobs are winning all the PvE events and that having a strong roster is a detriment and this is dumb. So, in short, the generic uber rant you'd expect to find anywhere. So I got a bunch of board PvE ubers telling me what I did wrong and so on, and in this game you can see everyone's roster if you know what alliance they belong to, and since the last event rewarded a new character based on placement you can see roughly where these guys placed. So I checked out my critics and found all but 1 of them finished no higher than #21, and the guy who finished above #21 joined a late bracket which is likely winning the JV division. What is a sub #20 finish in MPQ mean? In a typical 7d event, the #1 player can spot the #5 player at most the final 2 hours before losing his place, but can often easily spot an entire day's worth of points to anyone below #20. I've won an event where I can spot the #2 player an entire day and still win. So while I was complaining about losing to guys that can spot me 2 hours and probably still win, I was being corrected by guys who the leader can spot likely 2 days' worth of points and still win. So I guess the correct response is L2P?
While Internet community isn't where one should go to find intelligence, this community still always surprise me in how bad it can go, and it's even more amazing that the game is still so good (perhaps because the developer seems to pay absolutely no attention to their fans, which is a good thing). I had a lot of recent conversation where I'm complaining about the level 395 guys being too hard and I get a ton of response like: "I fought the level 200 version, how much harder can level 395 possibly be?" Then again, I remember when I first joined, one of the popular poster/uber was saying "This game is too hard if they take away my ability to win on my second turn" (Ragnarok won 99% of the game after 1 turn for those who have him back then) and a lot of people agreed with him.
While Internet community isn't where one should go to find intelligence, this community still always surprise me in how bad it can go, and it's even more amazing that the game is still so good (perhaps because the developer seems to pay absolutely no attention to their fans, which is a good thing). I had a lot of recent conversation where I'm complaining about the level 395 guys being too hard and I get a ton of response like: "I fought the level 200 version, how much harder can level 395 possibly be?" Then again, I remember when I first joined, one of the popular poster/uber was saying "This game is too hard if they take away my ability to win on my second turn" (Ragnarok won 99% of the game after 1 turn for those who have him back then) and a lot of people agreed with him.