I was about to post how much the nerf on Thor's yellow ability hurt compared to before and then I got enough in one match to use it twice in a row. I think I may actually like it more now. Especially in conjunction with wolverine's new green ability. It still fucks shit up. Although the boost to Thor's green ability may have me rethinking things.
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Well Thor's yellow was just doing way too much damage for its class. It generally did more damage than Ares's yellow even when the countdown resolved, which makes no sense since you're taking a huge risk if the Sunder countdown gets stopped. Now it combos well with other green abilities and works well as a setup move for something like Sniper Rifle, or even his own Call of the Storm.
I might be better off here soon I'm only about a thousand points away from earning the Wolverine patch for having 20,000 points
There seems to be more than enough points to hit 20K. I already got my Patch.
With the massive nerfs overall I'm actually competitive in Lightning Round because it's no longer just a slugfest with everyone triple boosted and knocking out a team in 30 seconds.
With the massive nerfs overall I'm actually competitive in Lightning Round because it's no longer just a slugfest with everyone triple boosted and knocking out a team in 30 seconds.
I'm not doing so hot in the Daredevil event since I missed like three days of it (I'm only at like 5k points) but it looks like I could push for #1 in the Punisher tournament later today before it ends and at the very least get three Patch covers. I only started the tournament today and my ladder isn't very competitive. I've put like zero effort into it (285 points.. and I've lost like 17 all night) and I'm #8. #1 is only at 400ish but I don't want to push for it and spook people into getting 700 points above me while I sleep.
The brackets are formed on a first come first serve basis so the later you join the lower overall points tend to be. That doesn't necessarily make things any easier because most likely these guys are going to be playing a lot at the last moment. The later brackets are certainly more likely to be volatile compared to the early ones.
I've been sitting at a 333 rating and pretty much untouched all day. In general, score under 400 just aren't very enticing for an opponent unless your team is unbelievably weak, since the top of the bracket is usually around 700-900. I don't really need the Patch covers so I haven't put in much effort on this one.
I've been sitting at a 333 rating and pretty much untouched all day. In general, score under 400 just aren't very enticing for an opponent unless your team is unbelievably weak, since the top of the bracket is usually around 700-900. I don't really need the Patch covers so I haven't put in much effort on this one.
Haha. #1 is at 473 now and I didn't lose any points last night. Hell, someone lost to my team and I gained 25 points. That's kind of ideal :D
Edit: Going to hold at #2 until the last hour (1hr 50min left).. six people in the top ten are shielded and no one else is moving, so as long as no one comes out of nowhere I should get #1. Woohoo
Edit: Going to hold at #2 until the last hour (1hr 50min left).. six people in the top ten are shielded and no one else is moving, so as long as no one comes out of nowhere I should get #1. Woohoo
If you care about the IW cover, you shouldn't be so cheap to never shield!
It is actually quite possible to lose now that the powerhouse stuff is nerfed. The computer simply doens't use Wolverine well on defense so before you can always count on Feral Claws to bail you out. Now this is no longer true. You also only have one chance to win on attack now, so it's actually possible to put up a good defense, and the general nerf for boosts (AP+3 all costs HP) means people can't just fearlessly attack your team with their damaged/weak team.
It is actually quite possible to lose now that the powerhouse stuff is nerfed. The computer simply doens't use Wolverine well on defense so before you can always count on Feral Claws to bail you out. Now this is no longer true. You also only have one chance to win on attack now, so it's actually possible to put up a good defense, and the general nerf for boosts (AP+3 all costs HP) means people can't just fearlessly attack your team with their damaged/weak team.
Ugh, I don't care about IW but I was getting attacked like crazy and just could not get a decent surplus of points. I got #1 and threw up a shield. Someone is coming up from behind but looking at their roster I doubt they'll climb to #1 at the rate attacks are coming in. At the very least the shield will definitely keep me top 5 which I actually got bumped out of a couple times this hour. At this point IW would be nice to just sell and get some hero points back.
I didn't realize shields meant you couldn't attack or you'd lose them until yesterday. I take back all I said about them being bullshit
edit: Uggggh someone attacked me after I wrote this post and a few minutes after I threw up the shield and I would have gained 34 points. Damn and there's a lot of people climbing in these last minutes. Really could have used those points.
I didn't realize shields meant you couldn't attack or you'd lose them until yesterday. I take back all I said about them being bullshit
edit: Uggggh someone attacked me after I wrote this post and a few minutes after I threw up the shield and I would have gained 34 points. Damn and there's a lot of people climbing in these last minutes. Really could have used those points.
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Usually it's not so much as another guy can overtake you as opposed to you can easily fall very far in the ending moments of a tournament.
Oh, boo. Some guy did what I did and threw up a shield. I'll still get top 5 :(
The other guy I was worried about with the low level roster passed me and then when I checked five minutes later he'd lost 80 points and fallen to #7. At this point the most I could even possibly fall is #3.
The other guy I was worried about with the low level roster passed me and then when I checked five minutes later he'd lost 80 points and fallen to #7. At this point the most I could even possibly fall is #3.
Now people are crying over PvE events which seems to scale depending on your roster strength, so that newbies actually have a chance to place well. The heroic mode Oscorp is pretty darn hard and absolutely brutal if your roster is not built correctly. You need either a high level Classic Storm, high level Grey Suit Black Widow, or a high level Spiderman to have a reasonable shot at this. Storm is actually pretty eas to get, but she's the one character I haven't bother building up.
Yeah I can't do jack shit in the new event and the levels of my PvE opponents are god damned ridiculous. Obviously they need to tweak this some more. I tried retreating like twenty times but the levels recovered after like two victories. Seriously, if this is what I get to look forward to I'm done with this game. Challenge is fine but come on. I'll fight a team with 40-100+ levels on me but not in the very first fight. Throw me a bone here. Hell getting to The Hood and fighting him in the Daredevil event was fun despite him having like 145 levels on my highest character.
I literally only have one character that can even be in the event. Shouldn't the game scale to his level rather than my other characters? Oh, well, I'll just play other things while they hopefully finish tweaking these fights.
I literally only have one character that can even be in the event. Shouldn't the game scale to his level rather than my other characters? Oh, well, I'll just play other things while they hopefully finish tweaking these fights.
Storm provides very good board control if you have her leveled up and she does very good damage. If you don't have her, it's pretty rough unless you got Spiderman with high blue for stun locks. If you have GSBW she can pretty much dig any green countdown tiles out from anywhere with her purple.
That said minions are always super powerful in terms of damage output because they can't move the board. Looking at the leaderboard it seems like most people aren't getting anywhere in this tournament either, but then placement is relative so it's still relatively fair. Most of the progression rewards seems totally out of reach, though. I have no idea how anyone could get the 50K reward or even the 30K.
That said minions are always super powerful in terms of damage output because they can't move the board. Looking at the leaderboard it seems like most people aren't getting anywhere in this tournament either, but then placement is relative so it's still relatively fair. Most of the progression rewards seems totally out of reach, though. I have no idea how anyone could get the 50K reward or even the 30K.
Yeah this event is kicking my ass as well even using boosts. I don't have a chance and am not even trying.
Don't know if either of you are still playing this as well but they just added allliences to the game and was thinking we could group up. Interested?
I got asked for several alliances too, so I'm taking a wait and see approach. There's no real function for those yet right? I heard in the future there will be alliance based ranking and stuff but you might have to spend HP for some functionality (like having bigger alliances).
I don't know for sure just thought it might be fun to work together. I'm doing really well in the current event. The way I'm going I'm pretty much sure to get at least two black panther covers and have a really good chance at three.
I only just started playing seriously the past couple days so I'm probably looking at three wolverine covers or one black panther. I'm up for joining if something ends up getting put together. Tessian would probably want in too since he still plays this most days.
Ill create the team if people want to do it. Just figured it would be more fun for us to get a shrine alliance going.
I'm up for it.
I'm trying to desperately scramble for the 70k punisher progression reward. I got my third and fourth covers for him this week and a fifth would make him my highest level three star character. I hit 60k today so it should be doable. Should also be able to get top 5 in both of the 24 hour mini events which would be nice. I wish I'd gotten more into this event during the first three days but I only did enough to get the initial isotope rewards.
I'm trying to desperately scramble for the 70k punisher progression reward. I got my third and fourth covers for him this week and a fifth would make him my highest level three star character. I hit 60k today so it should be doable. Should also be able to get top 5 in both of the 24 hour mini events which would be nice. I wish I'd gotten more into this event during the first three days but I only did enough to get the initial isotope rewards.
Took a bit to save up the iso but its created under the name tOWS Allience join up!
So I finished right where I expected pretty much and got two black panther covers. I also got a lot of other great covers out of this event especially a ton of covers for magneto marvel now. I'm glad it didn't start a new event right away though the break is welcome.
The brackets are formed on a first come first served so joining late isn't a huge disadvantage unless you're the 500th/1000th guy to join, in that case it'd probably suck.
Black Panther is ridiculously overpowered. His black does 4000 damage to the entire team when maxed. Realistically no nontank character is going to survive that since the highest nontank HP is 5800 and it's pretty trivial to come up with 1800X3 damage just from collecting enough AP to get 12 black. I'm guessing he'll be nerfed. Even with 2 black covers he's pretty insane. He's a very solid character overall though, and probably the best tank character out of the 3*. Hulk is pretty annoying, but it's hard to see Hulk actually winning games unless you pair him with Patch.
Black Panther is ridiculously overpowered. His black does 4000 damage to the entire team when maxed. Realistically no nontank character is going to survive that since the highest nontank HP is 5800 and it's pretty trivial to come up with 1800X3 damage just from collecting enough AP to get 12 black. I'm guessing he'll be nerfed. Even with 2 black covers he's pretty insane. He's a very solid character overall though, and probably the best tank character out of the 3*. Hulk is pretty annoying, but it's hard to see Hulk actually winning games unless you pair him with Patch.
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I keep hoping they will have a fantastic four event where the rest of them come in. I doubt I will ever get an invisible woman any time soon but would love to see my favorite team in the game. Any word on when the next non pvp event will pop up?
They don't announce these things ahead of time but I'd assume they wouldn't have more than one week without any new PvE event going on.
Ouch looks like this will be a long event...9 days. I know it will get harder and that's good because right now I feel like a bully.
Ugggh bad day for a new event.. free mini-expansion for Path of Exile starts in a few minutes.
You must have been playing when the stuff are still level 15. All my enemies have an extra '2' before the 15.M'k'n'zy wrote:Ouch looks like this will be a long event...9 days. I know it will get harder and that's good because right now I feel like a bully.
My stuff was pretty even with me when I was playing.. the first fight was like 87s or something.
I have a real good history in PvE events too (generally played in top 2 overall in most recent ones) so it might have remembered that.Shrinweck wrote:My stuff was pretty even with me when I was playing.. the first fight was like 87s or something.
Yeah it's definitely rougher going now. I've got levels from mid 70s up to just over 200.
Was that last round only supposed to give heroic recruit tokens and not hulk tokens? I finished top 100 in both and only got regular heroic tokens.
The last and current round gives out heroic tokens as reward for some reason. If you look at the event rewards it does say regular heroic tokens.
Yeah I contacted them and they said it was a deliberate change. Sucks. I got two covers for my already maxed out classic widow. Btw I get a ragnarok cover on my daily supply tomorrow is he worth keeping?
He's a marginal character because his green/red are decent but decent green/red powers are dime-a-dozen, and having only 2 powers and 2 strong colors is a huge drawback. His green needs to 5 covers to be useful too. I'm a collector so I keep almost everyone but if you're actually pressed for space, it's pretty safe to dump him unless you for some reason don't have anyone with good red/green powers (hard to imagine how that's even possible). I mean Dr. Doom and Loki are kind of in the same boat too, but at least they have a good black power which isn't common, and both have 3 strong tile colors even with only 2 powers.M'k'n'zy wrote:Yeah I contacted them and they said it was a deliberate change. Sucks. I got two covers for my already maxed out classic widow. Btw I get a ragnarok cover on my daily supply tomorrow is he worth keeping?
Well Doom at least has a power that feeds his other power nicely. The higher level dooms in the last pve event were priority targets for be because he would put down five or six tiles doing 125 or so a turn each. That's a lot of damage. As for red and green I have the 2 star wolverine at level 77 so he is my main damage dealer. My only character higher leveled ids my 85 classic widow. I have her at 3/5/5 and she ends up doing good damage herself as well as great healing. The only 3 star cover I have more than one or two covers for its punisher who I have at 45 right now.
Red/green powerful characters are dime a dozen. You got Wolverine 2*, Patch, Thor, Ares, The Punisher, and The Hulk who are all solid characters. I don't believe Ragnarok's nerf is as bad as people say, but the fact that he always only had 2 colors and also only 2 strong color strength means you might as well go with someone who have 3 abilities/colors instead of 2.
Dr. Doom's blue is pretty worthless because blue is the most powerful color in the game right now and it's counterproductive to use blue to feed black. The only case it makes sense is if you've him paired with Black Panther, but even Black Panther has a pretty strong blue even though his black is absolutely broken (still strictly better than Sniper Rifle almost all the time, which is an attack that can normally wipe out an entire team). The thing is that purple/black/yellow are the 'weak' color so having even a marginal ability on those colors is huge. This is also why Magneto classic and OBW are probably the strongest character in the game for their rarity. Besides having completely broken mechanisms, they both have a strong purple ability that is normally one of the weakest color. Likewise Black Panther is probably top 3 overall right now, because he has a very strong (black) and a decent ability (yellow) on the two normally weak colors.
Dr. Doom's blue is pretty worthless because blue is the most powerful color in the game right now and it's counterproductive to use blue to feed black. The only case it makes sense is if you've him paired with Black Panther, but even Black Panther has a pretty strong blue even though his black is absolutely broken (still strictly better than Sniper Rifle almost all the time, which is an attack that can normally wipe out an entire team). The thing is that purple/black/yellow are the 'weak' color so having even a marginal ability on those colors is huge. This is also why Magneto classic and OBW are probably the strongest character in the game for their rarity. Besides having completely broken mechanisms, they both have a strong purple ability that is normally one of the weakest color. Likewise Black Panther is probably top 3 overall right now, because he has a very strong (black) and a decent ability (yellow) on the two normally weak colors.
I'm noticing people on the forums and in general seem to be very bad about using OBW. People purposely build her Aggressive Recon at level 3, which is her strongest ability, but Aggressive Recon isn't a 'one cast game over' ability. It is overpowered but it takes more than one Aggressive Recon to win the game, and higher levels of Aggressive Recon are considerably more efficient than lower levels of Aggressive Recon. So they're basically treating AR level 3 as an ability that wins the game in one casting, except it is not THAT powerful. Maybe that's why most people don't realize how overpowered OBW is. People seems to have the logic of 'what difference does stealing 1 more of every color do?' Well, that's one less AP they don't have that you now have. AR3 is a 30 AP (-15 for them +15 for you) turn around while AR5 is a 48 AP (-24 for them +24 for you) turn around, and AR5 is basically cheaper because it steals purples too so its effective cost is 7 AP. If they got no purple AP to steal, you have all the purple and shouldn't be losing anyway.
I like OBW black and blue powers more. That and I like being able to use AR3 more quickly. AR5 is an "I win" button when the computer uses it against you at times but having that skill require you to make 1-2 more purple matches is a good way to have the computer use its skills and rob you of your stealing opportunity.
I like the guaranteed damage passive and the more powerful heal more than I like using a more powerful and expensive version of AR. I find a great deal of the time I can't use AR3 to its full potential, let alone AR5.
I like the guaranteed damage passive and the more powerful heal more than I like using a more powerful and expensive version of AR. I find a great deal of the time I can't use AR3 to its full potential, let alone AR5.
AR5 takes at most one more matches, and after you get 11 purple it's cheaper than AR3 because you get 4 purple back. One AR3 isn't going to end the game and if you need more than one AR, you're better with AR5.
Espionage's damage increase from 4 to 5 is negligible in the grand scheme of things. It just needs to be at level 4 to trigger strike tiles. If you're not using strike tiles you don't even need it at level 4.
For the heals, it just doesn't heal enough because OBW should be matching purple/black/blue to trigger Espionage and that makes it impossible to spread out the damage evenly when your weakest character is tanking at least 3 colors. If OBW isn't matching purple there's something really wrong with your team setup (unless it's forced with a required hero). If she's not matching blue you really don't need her blue.
Espionage's damage increase from 4 to 5 is negligible in the grand scheme of things. It just needs to be at level 4 to trigger strike tiles. If you're not using strike tiles you don't even need it at level 4.
For the heals, it just doesn't heal enough because OBW should be matching purple/black/blue to trigger Espionage and that makes it impossible to spread out the damage evenly when your weakest character is tanking at least 3 colors. If OBW isn't matching purple there's something really wrong with your team setup (unless it's forced with a required hero). If she's not matching blue you really don't need her blue.
I have five or six, make a match of three. The enemy doesn't have any purple for me to espionage away. That means I have eight or nine and need another match to get the 10 for AR5. Happens quite often in the beginning of a match. That extra turn for a maneuver that doesn't do any damage and won't necessarily open me up for an opportunity to use one of my damage skills, but lets them get another opportunity is just wasteful.
Looks like they've some alliance based prizes so I got to join one. What's the alliance we got, assuming there's still room?
We have it tho its just shin and I right now tOWS Allience
Hmm, alliance score seems to just be the sum of the members? That sounds like it's got room for some serious problems.
BTW I think we got a typo in our alliance name.
BTW I think we got a typo in our alliance name.
Yeah I wasn't going to say anything - it doesn't really matter since it doesn't get displayed.
Well I hope you two enjoy your three star thor covers cause I'm going to miss the cut. I can't beat anything without loading up on boosts and even then without luck they kill me. I'm not going to make the cut and they must have made it so losing doesn't weaken them anymore as I did close to 20 retreats and had one team fight to the death and it never went down. So frustrated.
I've mostly only been keeping up with the match for the daily cache. I'm ranked like 50000th. Kinda sad, I could have used the punisher progression rewards, but only got to ~30000 points today. My gaming time has been monopolized by Path of Exile lately.
I'm sitting at number 160 or so. Have to play a few more games to finish in the top 200 and got another tournament to manage too.
It seems like the alliance stuff overwhelmingly favors large alliances but I doubt any of us have the HP to increase the size significantly. I saw two other guys in the alliance. Do either of you know them? Not that it matters because it's not like you can actually communicate anything meaningful beyond 'get more points guys!'
It seems like the alliance stuff overwhelmingly favors large alliances but I doubt any of us have the HP to increase the size significantly. I saw two other guys in the alliance. Do either of you know them? Not that it matters because it's not like you can actually communicate anything meaningful beyond 'get more points guys!'
I'm going to sell myself out for a blue Black Panther cover so probably leaving the alliance (as soon as I find a 20 man alliance to join). There's literally no way a five man alliance can be competitive in this environment even if you have the 5 best players in the world and I doubt any of us is going to shell out 10K HP to expand the alliance.