The Shrine

That's ze rumor from a reliable source. Eeeeee.

It would definitely be in their best interest to be the first out of the door.

Compared to the stream of reversals and PR fumbles coming out of Microsoft, Sony has been especially quiet lately (unless it is to point out something that they are not keeping behind a paywall when Microsoft announces the opposite). If Sony is going to be looking at a significantly lower price point and an earlier release - I'm sure that those buying that console on day one are going to be very pleased. The PS4 has definitely been a better presented console. The only concern I have for it is still the online infrastructure. I hope they are able to get that up to speed as soon as the consolse itself launches.

bovine wrote:The only concern I have for it is still the online infrastructure. I hope they are able to get that up to speed as soon as the consolse itself launches.

They'd better if you're starting to pay for it. Otherwise, gamers will raise hell!........oh, wait, hold on....

Zeus wrote:They'd better if you're starting to pay for it. Otherwise, gamers will raise hell!........oh, wait, hold on....

Jesus Christ, Zeus. Please stop talking about this. To call you a broken record on this would be an insult to broken records.

Nov 15

That sounds more like mid November, not a very reliable original source.

Flip wrote:That sounds more like mid November, not a very reliable original source.

Eric wrote:Nov 15

I took a look at the pre-order lineup at Best Buy. Honestly, guys, what are you lookin' to buy for the system at launch?

And Sine, no, never. It's a horrible, horrible thing that gamers allow themselves to be fucked in the ass. An occasional comment won't kill you. It's not like you've EVER stopped bitching about Nintendo and their whole "only Nintendo games on their systems matter" thing. To me, this is the same thing

Zeus wrote:

Eric wrote:Nov 15

I took a look at the pre-order lineup at Best Buy. Honestly, guys, what are you lookin' to buy for the system at launch?

And Sine, no, never. It's a horrible, horrible thing that gamers allow themselves to be fucked in the ass. An occasional comment won't kill you. It's not like you've EVER stopped bitching about Nintendo and their whole "only Nintendo games on their systems matter" thing. To me, this is the same thing

Knack, Killzone, Assassin's Creed 4 and Watch Dogs.

Eric wrote:

Zeus wrote:

Eric wrote:Nov 15

I took a look at the pre-order lineup at Best Buy. Honestly, guys, what are you lookin' to buy for the system at launch?

And Sine, no, never. It's a horrible, horrible thing that gamers allow themselves to be fucked in the ass. An occasional comment won't kill you. It's not like you've EVER stopped bitching about Nintendo and their whole "only Nintendo games on their systems matter" thing. To me, this is the same thing

Knack, Killzone, Assassin's Creed 4 and Watch Dogs.

See, I can't buy a system for just 2 exclusives. Otherwise, I would buy every system at launch. Just doesn't justify the cost

These are just the games I'm getting to justify my purchase actually. Infamous: Second Son is the real reason I'm buying early. I doubt the price is gonna drop by Feb sooooo.

Eric wrote:These are just the games I'm getting to justify my purchase actually. Infamous: Second Son is the real reason I'm buying early. I doubt the price is gonna drop by Feb sooooo.

Yeah, I know. And I may break next year when MGS 5 comes out since I'd want the "best" version. But it's really the same reason I didn't buy a Wii U. I would LOVE to play New Super Mario Bros Wii U, I had a ton of fun with it at Comic Con last year and I know I'm gonna love it. But I can't justify that kind of money for one game especially when I have so many other games here already. A year later there's finally enough out and coming that I can so I may get one this Black Friday (picked up a few $10 games from Walmart already).

It'll probably be the same with the PS4 for me. Hopefully by the time MGS5 comes out there will be enough games to warrant a purchase. I don't wanna buy that version and hold on to it 'til I pick up the system (I bought MGS4 LE a few months before I got the system and borrowed my bud's system to play it). The Xbox 720 (I can't call it One; I've been calling the original Xbox that to separate it from the 360 for years) will really have to force me into a purchase. Halo 5 (or 4 part 2, whatever they call it) won't be enough on its own. A new, fresh Gears may help. But there are no real exclusives I can see other than those that'll make me want an 720 (I can't imagine Valve releasing L4D3 only on Xbox again).

I think this entire next generation (including Wii U) will be at least one year and a "give me a reason" type approach for me at least.

I impulse bought a Vita for Persona 4, and a 3DS for Phoenix Wright, it usually only takes 1 game for me. ;p I'm an easy console whore.

Eric wrote:I impulse bought a Vita for Persona 4, and a 3DS for Phoenix Wright, it usually only takes 1 game for me. ;p I'm an easy console whore.

Heh. My bud bought a PS3 just for MGS4. Mind you, that was nearly 2 years after release. But even at that time, there was basically little to no exclusives to play on it (no, I don't consider Uncharted 1 a system seller). But to him, the PS3 as a Metal Gear adaptor was worth it, even for $500. Personally, I just can't justify that, I have to wait a bit.

What I'm shocked about is the lack of backwards compatibility on either of the new systems coming out. That's even LESS of an incentive to switch. If I'm not mistaken, that's the first time either $ony or Micro$haft have released a system without backwards compatibility. Also goes to show how even the manufacturers feel there's lots of legs left in the current gen systems that they don't wanna cannibalize those sales as well. They're bracing for a slow start to the next gen IMO.

If nothing else Killzone is good graphics porn. :p

Yeah, looks great. But not THAT much better

A:CM only wishes they had graphics that good.

SineSwiper wrote:A:CM only wishes they had graphics that good.

Funny you should mention that game. Picked it up for the first time in a couple of months. Man, that game keeps getting better the more I play it. I have no idea why people didn't like it. Other than the older-looking graphics, it's an awesome game

Zeus wrote:

SineSwiper wrote:A:CM only wishes they had graphics that good.

Funny you should mention that game. Picked it up for the first time in a couple of months. Man, that game keeps getting better the more I play it. I have no idea why people didn't like it. Other than the older-looking graphics, it's an awesome game

The troll is strong in this one. :p

Eric wrote:The troll is strong in this one. :p

Eric wrote:

Zeus wrote:

SineSwiper wrote:A:CM only wishes they had graphics that good.

Funny you should mention that game. Picked it up for the first time in a couple of months. Man, that game keeps getting better the more I play it. I have no idea why people didn't like it. Other than the older-looking graphics, it's an awesome game

The troll is strong in this one. :p

No, man. I seriously like the game. If you don't believe me, check out my trophies

Something serious happened between the review copies of the game and the version I'm playing (I have downloaded a few 100MB+ updates). I mean, take these excerpts from the IGN review:

"The problem lies with the aliens themselves; they’re not smart enough to hunt in packs or take you by surprise, they just wilfully hurl themselves in front of your short, controlled bursts. There’s never a feeling of being outwitted or outmanoeuvred, just outraged that you’ve sat down to take on some deadly xenos in one of sci-fi’s most iconic settings and somehow ended up in the equivalent of a clunky, coin-operated shooting gallery. It certainly doesn’t help that the game also bucks contemporary shooter convention by allowing you to carry all of your weapons at once - a darkened corridor full of xenos doesn’t seem particularly intimidating when you’ve got five kinds of assault rifle stuck down your pants and a shotgun up each sleeve."

Xenomorphs in this game will fuck you up if you're not careful. When you get attacked, it's not a "yeah, whatever, these things are so dead" type of approach. You're making sure you take them down real quick because if one of them gets close to you and starts nailing you, you can go down in as little as 2 hits. The AI is kinda useless but even in co-op you're still making sure you work in groups to take down the very aggressive groups of them that come at you. And I have no idea what this all weapons shit is all about. It's Call of Duty. You get 2 weapons plus a useless pistol. If you get a special weapon, you have only that and you drop it if you switch.

"These shotguns are noticeably overpowered, by the way, and even when faced with the Weyland-Yutani soldiers who at least have a basic sense of self preservation and tend to hide behind cover, you can still easily take them out from a room’s length away with your seemingly rangeless super shotgun."

Umm, no. The shotgun is fucking useless unless something is directly in front of you. And the soldiers are FUCKING ANNOYING. This is just flat-out wrong.

"Even when the game attempts to change things up – such as the level early on in which you’re stripped of all your weapons and must sneak your way through xeno-infested sewers – it completely misfires. These particular xenos – ‘boilers’ – are one of the few new species created for the game, and you kill them by quietly switching on power generators that cause them to throw a hissy fit and explode with rage (literally). This stretch of the game when you're at your most vulnerable should be tense and menacing, but instead it’s strangely hilarious."

Again, flat-out wrong. You can't do shit in this part. You just stand there and pray they don't hear you

"Lastly, it would be remiss of us not to highlight the overwhelming technical issues that plague both the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of Colonial Marines, presumably since at least part of the console duties were outsourced to developer Timegate Studios. We’ve grown accustomed to the widening gap in graphical quality between PC and console releases this late in the current hardware cycle, but the console versions of Colonial Marines don’t just look bad next to the PC version; they look bad full stop. Noticeably low res textures, shoddy lighting, screen tearing, rampant aliasing, environmental objects that pop in out of nowhere and vanish again – including the gun in your own hands – it all combines to make for a shooter that’s substantially below par this far into the hardware generation. Clearly when it came to optimising the console game, the developers were too exhausted for one last bug hunt. We know how they feel."

Yes, they feel like 2007 graphics instead of 2013 graphics. But they're not so bad that they're unplayable like this is saying. I don't recall my gun disappearing and reappearing. I don't see a bunch of pop-up like they complained about. They're just below-average graphics. The rest of the game is good enough that I can live with this. I ain't no graphics whore

At the end of the day, the game they reviewed is not the game I'm playing. Sure, some of the shortcomings are still there (namely, the graphics) but the game is fun, has good atmosphere, amazing sound and music (all lifted from the movie directly), the storyline is pretty solid (notice none of the reviews complain about that?)...it's a pretty solid game overall. A 7.5 or 8 IMO, I'm really enjoying it

PlayStation 4 will launch in Japan on February 22, 2014, and will cost 39,980 Yen ($401) on its own with a DualShock 4 controller, or for 43,980 Yen ($441) with the PlayStation 4’s camera.

Damn, 3 months later, hold that Japan. :p

I'm like Eric, I'll buy a system for one exclusive if I really want to play it. The PS4 just doesn't have one for me right now.

I am hoping Sony moneyhats an FF7 remake that is inspired by FF7 rather than Advent Children. I mean, I would be happier if Nintendo did it, but I think Sony published FF7 so it might be completely out of the question.