The Shrine

PS4 & assorted launch games Nov 15
Xbox One & assorted launch games Nov 22
Zelda: Link Between Worlds Nov 22
Super Mario 3D World Nov 22
Bioshock Infinite: Burial at Sea -- Episode One Nov 12

These are all on my watch list, PS4 obviously preordered and Zelda for my 3DS. PROBABLY gonna get Bioshock DLC.

Other than Walking Dead I'm not sure I'm getting anything new this month. Sticking with Path of Exile for now.

Yeah, def interested in the Bioshock DLC. Cant wait.

It's hard to buy the new XCOM game after they put the last one on sale for like 40-50% off two months after release. Going to wait on that one. While I'm glad I supported squad turn based strategy the first time around.. they made their money. Going to save a few bucks this time around.

I remember Civ 5's second expansion was like $30 retail, $28 pre order, and then it went on for sale for like $15 2 weeks later. While Steam is great with these deals, I'm really tired of games start being way too expensive just so that they can sell it for 75% off a week later.

Yeah it kind of sucks but for XCOM you can kind of understand. Games like Skyrim or the yearly Call of Duty iteration are going to sell like hotcakes for a year, so there's no need to put it on sale for hardly anything for quite a while, but XCOM had good word of mouth. I think putting it on sale for so much so early was a good move to get a lot of people to buy the game who would have forgot about the word of mouth in another couple months.

That Civ 5 expansion was just shit luck. I still didn't buy it lol. I don't think I even got three hours out of the last one.

Don wrote:I remember Civ 5's second expansion was like $30 retail, $28 pre order, and then it went on for sale for like $15 2 weeks later. While Steam is great with these deals, I'm really tired of games start being way too expensive just so that they can sell it for 75% off a week later.

He look, PC is the only platform where you actually can get a stupid discount on price later in less then a month's time, short of buying used that some filthy mouth breather had his hands on.

Eric wrote: Hey look, PC is the only platform where you actually can get a stupid discount on price later in less then a month's time, short of buying used that some filthy mouth breather had his hands on.

Which is why I traded my copy of Enemy Unknown for the 360 in toward this. Can't play the PC version, 360 version is not DLC, therefore must buy game again. Turned out pretty well: traded in XCOM, a 360 controller, a PS3 controller with detached thumb pads (glued down), and a non-functional play-and-charge kit for the full amount plus $4 I put toward a $12 copy of Ni No Kuni.

I BOUGHT A JRPG YOU GUYS. IT'S SO CHARMING AND I FEEL LIKE A MANBOY PLAYING IT BUT ITS FUN.

It's pretty lame to offer $2 off for pre order and then have 50% off the next week. I mean I realize the expansion sucked and they were just trying to reel in a few suckers with pre orders, but they could at least have the courtsey to wait for a month or so. There was a pretty big backlash with many people saying they'd never preorder from 2KGames again. I mean if you're going to have 50% sales every other week, maybe you should at least do some price matching on your own pre orders... or at least hold firm on the pre order cost for say at least a month.

I'm getting XCOM Enemy Within and LPing it day one ^_^ I also have my copies of Super Mario 3D World and Zelda:Link Between Worlds paid off.

In Canada, this weekend we were able to trade ANY game (even Madden 06) from the 360, PS3, Wii U, 3DS, or Vita and get either Assassin's Creed IV, Battlefield 4, or Call of Duty Ghosts for free. 1 per person per company (Best Buy or Futureshop) per day. We paid $22 after taxes and got 9 copies total (4 x Cod, 3 x AC4, 2 x Battlefield). So, obviously, I got all 3 :-). You can imagine the 3+ hour lineups on Saturday (the first day) and the lack of stock the last couple of days of the deal.

Working through Battlefield now. Pretty derivative single player campaign. Nothing special. As for the other games this month? Zelda for sure (getting the LE system), that's about it other than Black Friday deals

Flip wrote:Yeah, def interested in the Bioshock DLC. Cant wait.

Yeah, though I'm not even sure how this would work. Bioshock Infinite more or less ended the series. Fin. There is no point.

It's sort of like having Mass Effect 3 DLC.

SineSwiper wrote:

Flip wrote:Yeah, def interested in the Bioshock DLC. Cant wait.

Yeah, though I'm not even sure how this would work. Bioshock Infinite more or less ended the series. Fin. There is no point.

It's sort of like having Mass Effect 3 DLC.

Mass Effect 3 DLC was awesome, Citadel DLC was fan-service and kind of a epilogue that takes place during the game in all it's awesome.

Also some of the DLC fleshed out some things.

Bioshock Infinite's DLC is a separate matter entirely from the main game, but it's not a new game soooooo. Basically it's the night before and after the fall of Rapture.

Yeah ME3 had some good DLC. Citadel was basically the ending people wanted for the series and probably would have fanned some of the flames of internet hatred if they hadn't waited a full year to release it. Omega kind of sucked but they needed something with Aria since the game released with her heavily hinting at retaking Omega in the future. Leviathan was pretty cool since it fleshed out the origins of the Reapers. Also the underwater sequence in Leviathan was really, really neat.

Eric wrote:Bioshock Infinite's DLC is a separate matter entirely from the main game, but it's not a new game soooooo. Basically it's the night before and after the fall of Rapture.

So, fan service.

I liked the CoD: Ghosts single player campaign. Best one since Modern Warfare 1

It just occurred to me... how do kids these days convince their parents to drop $4-600 on one of these things? When I was a kid begging for an N64 took effort and I did like five hours of cleaning AND paid for half of it AND it wasn't even half of what one of these things cost today.

Shrinweck wrote:It just occurred to me... how do kids these days convince their parents to drop $4-600 on one of these things? When I was a kid begging for an N64 took effort and I did like five hours of cleaning AND paid for half of it AND it wasn't even half of what one of these things cost today.

Some of us are spoiled. :p

Also average gamer age is 20-30! So we buy our own systems now, f children!

I think if you factor in inflation, systems aren't really more expensive now compared to before. Some of them also double as devices for other uses.

Not really talking about our generation... Talking about the 11-17 year olds coming up now. Median age or not there's obviously a shit ton of scratchy voiced pubescent jag offs playing these things. Inflation hasn't exactly halved the spending power of money in the past 15-20 years. We're talking something like 20-35%. These things are a LOT more expensive then they used to be. And lets not forget that paychecks haven't been going up accordingly. They can't all be the 1%.

Of course our future/present children aren't going to have to ask for systems we hope to be buying for ourselves. :D

The nintendo consoles aren't really more expensive after factoring in inflation.

Stuff like PS4 in theory can have other uses. It's unclear to me if that'll convince someone's parent to buy it for them, but that's in theory why they're also pretty expensive.

The other uses are there but anyone who can afford to buy their kid such an extravagant present probably already has a blu-ray player, etc. I got a blu-ray player capable of hooking up to stuff like Netflix for under $100 four years ago. They've gotta be cheap as hell now.

At least when you buy your kid a $500+ PC/laptop they can do their homework on it. This is purely a recreational device. I just really wonder how kids these days convince their parents to drop a 2-4 weeks worth of grocery money on such a device.

My family's first Windows PC cost something like $5,000. Things on the PC end have gone WAY cheaper.

I don't think kids today are any more spoiled than we were back in the 80's/90's. Factoring inflation in, console games between NES and N64 were 2-3 times more than they are now. SNES games typically cost $80 in Canada at least, that's the equivalent of $110-$120 today; N64 games cost 80-120 - or up to $165 today. games today typically cost $40-$60 with the occassional $30 and $70 outliers.

Anyway, Mario 3D World and Zelda: A Link to the Past 2.

Jesus. The numbers I saw for United States inflation had $50 in the 90s being something like $65 (probably more like $70 today since the article I read about game pricing and inflation was probably two or three years ago). It's not really about spoiling children as much as being a child and managing to convince your parents to buy you something that expensive.

I don't really buy into people spoiling their children more now than before... Shitty children have always been around. The only reason people start noticing more of them is when they start getting high and mighty when they're older.

Oh no, there's an enormous epidemic of spoiling. Kids raising kids. They think the more you give the more you love. It's outta control huge. Much, much worse than when I was a kid.

Well i burned through the Bioshock DLC in a few hours. The reviews were right that it is short, but interesting. Even with a good story, though, and being back in Rapture... it might be best to be an episode behind these games if they plan to continue the $15 price per episode. I bet Ep 1 will be $5 once Ep 2 comes out.

Zeus wrote:Oh no, there's an enormous epidemic of spoiling. Kids raising kids. They think the more you give the more you love. It's outta control huge. Much, much worse than when I was a kid.

Thanks for making part of my point for me :D

Joking, but seriously, shitty people have raised shitty kids since the dawn of humanity. Teenagers have constantly been having kids throughout history. You just notice it more when you're older with or child and around kids more often. A teenager dedicated to giving a child a stable family is just as able to raise a child as any stable adult... there is however fewer stable teens than adults, yeah. People buying off their children because of their guilt of being shitty parents is also not new... Plentiful divorce has probably made this side of things more common, though.

Divorce. That's what I'm going to say is how these kids get these consoles as presents.

Shrinweck wrote:

Zeus wrote:Oh no, there's an enormous epidemic of spoiling. Kids raising kids. They think the more you give the more you love. It's outta control huge. Much, much worse than when I was a kid.

Thanks for making part of my point for me

Joking, but seriously, shitty people have raised shitty kids since the dawn of humanity. Teenagers have constantly been having kids throughout history. You just notice it more when you're older with or child and around kids more often. A teenager dedicated to giving a child a stable family is just as able to raise a child as any stable adult... there is however fewer stable teens than adults, yeah. People buying off their children because of their guilt of being shitty parents is also not new... Plentiful divorce has probably made this side of things more common, though.

Divorce. That's what I'm going to say is how these kids get these consoles as presents.

The problem is enabling by society in general. With the babying by their parents and no pressures from society, kids nowadays almost get of feeling of entitlement to being spoiled as opposed to ridicule that woulda happened back in the 80s and 90s. It's my generation's fault, they just flat out don't know how to parent

You guys are derailing my wonderful thread about video games with parenting bullshit. STOP IT, back to FUN!

Obamacare is a thing we could talk about.

Ron Paul 2012!

Eric wrote:You guys are derailing my wonderful thread about video games with parenting bullshit. STOP IT, back to FUN!

Yeah, so Bioshock... super neat! Really short.

Eric wrote:You guys are derailing my wonderful thread about video games with parenting bullshit. STOP IT, back to FUN!

Then respond to my post about the single player, give me something else to talk about :-)