The Other Worlds Shrine

Your place for discussion about RPGs, gaming, music, movies, anime, computers, sports, and any other stuff we care to talk about... 

  • November releases, anyone getting any of this stuff?

  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
 #162253  by Eric
 Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:19 pm
PS4 & assorted launch games Nov 15
Xbox One & assorted launch games Nov 22
Zelda: Link Between Worlds Nov 22
Super Mario 3D World Nov 22
Bioshock Infinite: Burial at Sea -- Episode One Nov 12

These are all on my watch list, PS4 obviously preordered and Zelda for my 3DS. PROBABLY gonna get Bioshock DLC.
 #162260  by Shrinweck
 Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:53 am
It's hard to buy the new XCOM game after they put the last one on sale for like 40-50% off two months after release. Going to wait on that one. While I'm glad I supported squad turn based strategy the first time around.. they made their money. Going to save a few bucks this time around.
 #162262  by Don
 Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:08 am
I remember Civ 5's second expansion was like $30 retail, $28 pre order, and then it went on for sale for like $15 2 weeks later. While Steam is great with these deals, I'm really tired of games start being way too expensive just so that they can sell it for 75% off a week later.
 #162263  by Shrinweck
 Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:40 am
Yeah it kind of sucks but for XCOM you can kind of understand. Games like Skyrim or the yearly Call of Duty iteration are going to sell like hotcakes for a year, so there's no need to put it on sale for hardly anything for quite a while, but XCOM had good word of mouth. I think putting it on sale for so much so early was a good move to get a lot of people to buy the game who would have forgot about the word of mouth in another couple months.

That Civ 5 expansion was just shit luck. I still didn't buy it lol. I don't think I even got three hours out of the last one.
 #162264  by Eric
 Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:15 am
Don wrote:I remember Civ 5's second expansion was like $30 retail, $28 pre order, and then it went on for sale for like $15 2 weeks later. While Steam is great with these deals, I'm really tired of games start being way too expensive just so that they can sell it for 75% off a week later.
He look, PC is the only platform where you actually can get a stupid discount on price later in less then a month's time, short of buying used that some filthy mouth breather had his hands on.
 #162266  by Blotus
 Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:21 am
Eric wrote: Hey look, PC is the only platform where you actually can get a stupid discount on price later in less then a month's time, short of buying used that some filthy mouth breather had his hands on.
Which is why I traded my copy of Enemy Unknown for the 360 in toward this. Can't play the PC version, 360 version is not DLC, therefore must buy game again. Turned out pretty well: traded in XCOM, a 360 controller, a PS3 controller with detached thumb pads (glued down), and a non-functional play-and-charge kit for the full amount plus $4 I put toward a $12 copy of Ni No Kuni.

I BOUGHT A JRPG YOU GUYS. IT'S SO CHARMING AND I FEEL LIKE A MANBOY PLAYING IT BUT ITS FUN.
 #162268  by Don
 Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:47 pm
It's pretty lame to offer $2 off for pre order and then have 50% off the next week. I mean I realize the expansion sucked and they were just trying to reel in a few suckers with pre orders, but they could at least have the courtsey to wait for a month or so. There was a pretty big backlash with many people saying they'd never preorder from 2KGames again. I mean if you're going to have 50% sales every other week, maybe you should at least do some price matching on your own pre orders... or at least hold firm on the pre order cost for say at least a month.
 #162274  by Zeus
 Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:59 pm
In Canada, this weekend we were able to trade ANY game (even Madden 06) from the 360, PS3, Wii U, 3DS, or Vita and get either Assassin's Creed IV, Battlefield 4, or Call of Duty Ghosts for free. 1 per person per company (Best Buy or Futureshop) per day. We paid $22 after taxes and got 9 copies total (4 x Cod, 3 x AC4, 2 x Battlefield). So, obviously, I got all 3 :-). You can imagine the 3+ hour lineups on Saturday (the first day) and the lack of stock the last couple of days of the deal.

Working through Battlefield now. Pretty derivative single player campaign. Nothing special. As for the other games this month? Zelda for sure (getting the LE system), that's about it other than Black Friday deals
 #162281  by SineSwiper
 Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:36 am
Flip wrote:Yeah, def interested in the Bioshock DLC. Cant wait.
Yeah, though I'm not even sure how this would work. Bioshock Infinite more or less ended the series. Fin. There is no point.

It's sort of like having Mass Effect 3 DLC.
 #162284  by Eric
 Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:05 am
SineSwiper wrote:
Flip wrote:Yeah, def interested in the Bioshock DLC. Cant wait.
Yeah, though I'm not even sure how this would work. Bioshock Infinite more or less ended the series. Fin. There is no point.

It's sort of like having Mass Effect 3 DLC.
Mass Effect 3 DLC was awesome, Citadel DLC was fan-service and kind of a epilogue that takes place during the game in all it's awesome.

Also some of the DLC fleshed out some things.

Bioshock Infinite's DLC is a separate matter entirely from the main game, but it's not a new game soooooo. Basically it's the night before and after the fall of Rapture.
 #162287  by Shrinweck
 Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:59 am
Yeah ME3 had some good DLC. Citadel was basically the ending people wanted for the series and probably would have fanned some of the flames of internet hatred if they hadn't waited a full year to release it. Omega kind of sucked but they needed something with Aria since the game released with her heavily hinting at retaking Omega in the future. Leviathan was pretty cool since it fleshed out the origins of the Reapers. Also the underwater sequence in Leviathan was really, really neat.
 #162300  by SineSwiper
 Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:15 am
Eric wrote:Bioshock Infinite's DLC is a separate matter entirely from the main game, but it's not a new game soooooo. Basically it's the night before and after the fall of Rapture.
So, fan service.
 #162305  by Shrinweck
 Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:29 pm
It just occurred to me... how do kids these days convince their parents to drop $4-600 on one of these things? When I was a kid begging for an N64 took effort and I did like five hours of cleaning AND paid for half of it AND it wasn't even half of what one of these things cost today.
 #162307  by Eric
 Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:31 pm
Shrinweck wrote:It just occurred to me... how do kids these days convince their parents to drop $4-600 on one of these things? When I was a kid begging for an N64 took effort and I did like five hours of cleaning AND paid for half of it AND it wasn't even half of what one of these things cost today.
Some of us are spoiled. :p

Also average gamer age is 20-30! So we buy our own systems now, f children!
 #162308  by Don
 Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:38 pm
I think if you factor in inflation, systems aren't really more expensive now compared to before. Some of them also double as devices for other uses.
 #162310  by Shrinweck
 Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:12 pm
Not really talking about our generation... Talking about the 11-17 year olds coming up now. Median age or not there's obviously a shit ton of scratchy voiced pubescent jag offs playing these things. Inflation hasn't exactly halved the spending power of money in the past 15-20 years. We're talking something like 20-35%. These things are a LOT more expensive then they used to be. And lets not forget that paychecks haven't been going up accordingly. They can't all be the 1%.

Of course our future/present children aren't going to have to ask for systems we hope to be buying for ourselves. :D
 #162311  by Don
 Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:16 pm
The nintendo consoles aren't really more expensive after factoring in inflation.

Stuff like PS4 in theory can have other uses. It's unclear to me if that'll convince someone's parent to buy it for them, but that's in theory why they're also pretty expensive.
 #162314  by Shrinweck
 Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:00 am
The other uses are there but anyone who can afford to buy their kid such an extravagant present probably already has a blu-ray player, etc. I got a blu-ray player capable of hooking up to stuff like Netflix for under $100 four years ago. They've gotta be cheap as hell now.

At least when you buy your kid a $500+ PC/laptop they can do their homework on it. This is purely a recreational device. I just really wonder how kids these days convince their parents to drop a 2-4 weeks worth of grocery money on such a device.
 #162341  by Julius Seeker
 Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:39 pm
My family's first Windows PC cost something like $5,000. Things on the PC end have gone WAY cheaper.

I don't think kids today are any more spoiled than we were back in the 80's/90's. Factoring inflation in, console games between NES and N64 were 2-3 times more than they are now. SNES games typically cost $80 in Canada at least, that's the equivalent of $110-$120 today; N64 games cost 80-120 - or up to $165 today. games today typically cost $40-$60 with the occassional $30 and $70 outliers.

Anyway, Mario 3D World and Zelda: A Link to the Past 2.
 #162346  by Shrinweck
 Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:07 pm
Jesus. The numbers I saw for United States inflation had $50 in the 90s being something like $65 (probably more like $70 today since the article I read about game pricing and inflation was probably two or three years ago). It's not really about spoiling children as much as being a child and managing to convince your parents to buy you something that expensive.

I don't really buy into people spoiling their children more now than before... Shitty children have always been around. The only reason people start noticing more of them is when they start getting high and mighty when they're older.
 #162348  by Zeus
 Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:15 pm
Oh no, there's an enormous epidemic of spoiling. Kids raising kids. They think the more you give the more you love. It's outta control huge. Much, much worse than when I was a kid.
 #162350  by Flip
 Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:57 pm
Well i burned through the Bioshock DLC in a few hours. The reviews were right that it is short, but interesting. Even with a good story, though, and being back in Rapture... it might be best to be an episode behind these games if they plan to continue the $15 price per episode. I bet Ep 1 will be $5 once Ep 2 comes out.
 #162352  by Shrinweck
 Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:07 pm
Zeus wrote:Oh no, there's an enormous epidemic of spoiling. Kids raising kids. They think the more you give the more you love. It's outta control huge. Much, much worse than when I was a kid.
Thanks for making part of my point for me :D

Joking, but seriously, shitty people have raised shitty kids since the dawn of humanity. Teenagers have constantly been having kids throughout history. You just notice it more when you're older with or child and around kids more often. A teenager dedicated to giving a child a stable family is just as able to raise a child as any stable adult... there is however fewer stable teens than adults, yeah. People buying off their children because of their guilt of being shitty parents is also not new... Plentiful divorce has probably made this side of things more common, though.

Divorce. That's what I'm going to say is how these kids get these consoles as presents.
 #162353  by Zeus
 Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:22 pm
Shrinweck wrote:
Zeus wrote:Oh no, there's an enormous epidemic of spoiling. Kids raising kids. They think the more you give the more you love. It's outta control huge. Much, much worse than when I was a kid.
Thanks for making part of my point for me :D

Joking, but seriously, shitty people have raised shitty kids since the dawn of humanity. Teenagers have constantly been having kids throughout history. You just notice it more when you're older with or child and around kids more often. A teenager dedicated to giving a child a stable family is just as able to raise a child as any stable adult... there is however fewer stable teens than adults, yeah. People buying off their children because of their guilt of being shitty parents is also not new... Plentiful divorce has probably made this side of things more common, though.

Divorce. That's what I'm going to say is how these kids get these consoles as presents.
The problem is enabling by society in general. With the babying by their parents and no pressures from society, kids nowadays almost get of feeling of entitlement to being spoiled as opposed to ridicule that woulda happened back in the 80s and 90s. It's my generation's fault, they just flat out don't know how to parent
 #162371  by Flip
 Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:12 am
Eric wrote:You guys are derailing my wonderful thread about video games with parenting bullshit. STOP IT, back to FUN!

Yeah, so Bioshock... super neat! Really short.
 #162380  by Zeus
 Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:20 pm
Eric wrote:You guys are derailing my wonderful thread about video games with parenting bullshit. STOP IT, back to FUN!
Then respond to my post about the single player, give me something else to talk about :-)