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Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
 #163101  by M'k'n'zy
 Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:14 pm
Can't say I'd blame you. If you see one with a couple of openings let me know. Don't know how well I'm going to do in this heroic my only leveled character I can use is Wolverine and my boosted thor I got lucky enough to still get rest are all 25 or lower with no healing.
 #163102  by Don
 Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:54 pm
They're still trying to figure out who's going to pony up the 1600 HP for the next slot so I'll be here for a bit.

Right now it seems to be totally turning into a 'buy your way for a slot'.
 #163160  by Shrinweck
 Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:42 pm
Finally getting some use out of Ares in this event. He owns bones powered up.
 #163169  by M'k'n'zy
 Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:51 am
I'm doing well in this one as well. Kinda laughable however what is going on with me and the 3 star Thor. I have gotten five covers for him.....all green lol ^_^

I also got lucky in my first little investment into the game. I decided with how long I have been playing that I would throw some money their way and buy enough hero points to get one of the heroic ten packs. I got two 4 start wolvie covers. Talk about some good luck! Thrilled about getting them, even though with just those two he isn't much use yet, still its my first 4 star and im excited to have him!
 #163172  by Don
 Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:40 pm
4* are kind of weak at the moment but they might be buffing them up. They also cost a ton of iso to level up though.

Green is a very good cover for Thor.

I'm still waiting for the 66% off deal from Steam, though I guess it won't be going up for a while (was one of those big sales for everything and at that time I didn't need it).
 #163175  by M'k'n'zy
 Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:11 am
Yeah I agree that Thor's green is great, but it would have been nice to have his yellow at least to help GET more green faster, (and his red to help get more yellow)

This event has just fallen apart for me at this point. I don't know why but pretty much everything I am fighting now is just destroying me. I really got to start getting some more 3 star covers and get them to higher levels, but I can never seem to rank high enough to finish in a rank where I get multiple covers. At this rate I may not even be able to finish high enough to get even one of the three star Captain America covers.

And as far as the 4* wolvie goes, I was just excited to have my first 4*. I realize he is expensive for his power, and with two covers I can't do much anyway, it's just exciting to have them.
 #163176  by Don
 Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:03 pm
The scaling is kind of questionable right now. PvE is more about how to cheat the scaling system than anything to do with your roster because a lot of the guys finishing #1 are like guys with level 141s fighting level 150 enemies which is basically a joke, even though they should be fighting 230s but somehow avoided them.

The difficulty, especially on the hard mode, is not unreasonable but it is unreasonable when some people randomly get way easier enemies.
 #163189  by M'k'n'zy
 Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:14 pm
Btw if your alliance gets an opening for a new player please let me know! I have a couple of three stars with a moderate amount of covers now and am doing a lot better. I'm consistently placing in the top thirty minimum and may make top ten this event depending on how it scales.
 #163190  by Don
 Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:35 pm
My alliance is only recruiting people active on the MPQ forum and it's currently full anyway. We actually didn't start out as a 'conquer the world' alliance, though we got top 2 last round of Simulator Basic. Pretty funny that neither SHIELD nor 5DeadlyVenom got top 2. PvP is a lost cause because the SHIELD guys are all rich and having shields gives you an insurmountable advantage in PvP, but no such P2W options exist in PvE. Most of the SHIELD guys were exploiting the PvE scaling too (though I suspect this is because they're lazy, not because they actually knew how it worked) and it's not until R3 where the community scaling finally caught up to them.

There's a thread here on Alliances that are recruiting http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5309. No idea who they are, but it looks like alliances are going to be a permanent thing and I'm pretty sure none of us can afford a 20-man alliance, so got to start looking somewhere.
 #163191  by Don
 Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:49 pm
BTW right now the best way to play PvE events is play as few games as possible until the last possible moment. If you see your mission at the X10 modifier you might as well do it until it's not at X10, but otherwise avoid playing because the PvE scaling has number of victories as the heaviest weight, so the more you win early on the worse off you'll be. While normally you want to be in a good position going into the final refresh and hence have a motivation to play earlier on, the fact that your levels will be much higher for winning too many games outweighs any positional advantage you might have.
 #163201  by Don
 Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:30 am
So I've been watching the PvP stuff, and I realize in this game, if it was say Starcraft 2, that people in the top division would all have a rating of around 500, while the guys in the tier immediately below that tends to have a rating of 1000+. This is because the top tier you get matched up against each other, and everyone basically wins equally so nobody ever gets out of 500. But if you tank your way out of the top tier (by say starting a game in another tournament and purposely surrender repeatedly, for example), you get sent to the minor leagues where your opponents are actually weak enough for you to plow through them without fear of retaliation. SHIELD has been winning the #1 PvP by a large margin, but even with the huge P2W I know their guys got shredded each time they showed up in the 'league of doom' that I am in, where there are about 10 guys all with maxed out roster and high playing time ready to pounce anyone who dares to attempt to break away from 500 rating.

It's actually pretty funny because in my tier where everyone is maxed out, we actually see relatively little activity because nobody's dumb enough to try to jump out ahead only be to immediately brought back to 500. Once a while you see a guy who tanked his way somehow show up and then get destroyed. I had a guy who attacked me with a 1000 rating. By the time he was done his rating is down to 600, and I think he was using some kind of hack too (he was winning 2 games for every game I was winning and his team is has considerably less offense than mine). It hardly matters when you lose 40 points each time you lose and only gain 8 for winning.

Anyway my alliance (The Scavengers) is making a push for #1 in the PvE event, which I feel is where the true competition is. Or, at the very least, this is where you can't just tank or buy your way to #1 like PvP. I suspect DjangoUnbuffed will win this, and they literally came out of nowhere too. I know Django and Scavenger all have at least one guy who lost 5K+ points for being screwed by PvE scaling (me on Scavengers, Bughunt on Django) since we're in the same overall bracket and we're both playing competitively instead of abusing the system so we have 230X3 enemies since round 2, compared to the exploiters that are still fighting level 150 enemies with a 141X3 roster. There are a lot of people exploiting the PvE scaling too, but unlike PvP, the grinders can eventually beat even the exploiters. The exploiters cannot grind because grinding neutralizes the exploit (scaling is most directly correlated to the number of games you win), and for whatever reason, the exploiters aren't able to grind 230X3, otherwise they'd have no reason to exploit in the first place.
 #163204  by M'k'n'zy
 Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:39 pm
I ended up just barely squeeking by with a single lazy captain cover. I did get a couple of Black Panther covers out of tokens this event though, so I am working on leveling him, I think I can get him to 77 right now and have him at 70. I can't wait to see Human Torch show up, and I really hope he isn't a four star, because as a big FF fan, I would like to be able to use him ^_^
 #163208  by Don
 Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:25 pm
Captain 3* stats looks like they only had time to work on his blue, and someone accidentally facerolled on his red and made it too good, and his yellow is still totally unusable. 3500 damage for 11 red AP that returns 10 AP if you can protect the tile (which isn't really hard because you just deposit it in a corner) is at least twice as good as the best red skill out there. Maybe they just added his yellow skill's budget into his red since the yellow is still totally useless (exactly same as Captain 2*).
 #163210  by M'k'n'zy
 Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:02 pm
I'm leveling a black panther right now I currently have two yellow one blue and five black for him is there a best build for him right now? I was figuring to go 5/3/5 with him.
 #163211  by Shrinweck
 Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:08 pm
That one skill that comes close to one hitting my entire team is probably one to take five in. That jerk.
 #163214  by Don
 Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:09 am
Black Panther's black used to do 25% more damage too.

His blue is better than his yellow but blue is currently dominated by Magneto and Spiderman, as in you'd never use any other blue ability if you have either of those two guys, and you got to have one of those two guys to be competitive at the high end, so 5/3/5 is better simply because you won't ever use his blue. He's a powerful character and borderline P2W. Of course, Thor 3* is totally P2W, and so is Captain America 3*. Thor 3* must have made them a ton of money since I see a ton of level 141 Thors pop up in the last week and no way people have that many covers/iso sitting around, and I suspect Captain 3* will too. 3500 damage for 1 red AP unless you're braindead is simply insane.

Sometimes I wonder are people so bad at this game that they can't possibly see how ridiculously overpowered the P2W characters are, or that they actually need stuff like a 3500 damage on 1 red AP to beat their opponents. I mean I see the guys bragging about winning with The Hood + OBW, and it's like not only do you abuse two of the broken characters but you're obviously too scared to fight anyone at your level, because if you're fighting Magneto he'd eat your team for breakfast, and yet The Hood is a top tier character in terms of acquisition (he's arguably harder to acquire than Magneto) so you must have tanked hard to avoid fighting his counter, Magneto.

Then again, this is a game where a lot of people thought Ragnarok infinite on turn two with 2 red AP Thunderclap is totally balanced.

Also, that reminds me, I just checked out your rosters. Do you guys fight enemies with level 141 or even close to that level? I keep on hear people say tanking allows you to feast on guys with roster that'd look roughly like you guy's roster, and I was wondering if that's true. If it true, that just shows how much of a joke the PvP Alliance reward is.
 #163215  by Don
 Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:13 am
BTW my alliance finished #2 overall. Held off a charge from SHIELD. DjangoUnbuffed came out from nowhere and took #1, as in nobody's really paid attention to them prior to this tournament since all the smack talk was between SHIELD and 5DeadlyVenom. They pretty much held #1 the entire time and won by a very comfortable margin, so they're probably the strongest alliance in the game right now when you can't P2W your way to victory.

Final score:
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I got 268K I think, or maybe it was 266K.
 #163220  by M'k'n'zy
 Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:36 am
In pve events I run into 100+ characters fairly regularly and if I play very carefully I can sometimes beat them without boosting. If they get any kind of good cascade however it really screws me over. I seen to be at a rough transition period where I am starting to get more three star covers and fighting more three star opponents but I'm still using a mostly two star party. It's challenging to say the least.
 #163221  by Don
 Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:47 am
Level 100 3* are actually about equal to level 85 2*, though there are more broken 3*s. Someone like The Punisher, who is clearly a tier above any balanced character, is just hard to fight with a balanced 85. You do have OBW, who is clearly a top tier character, but there aren't really any top tier DPS options at 2* that's comparable to The Punisher.
 #163222  by M'k'n'zy
 Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:32 pm
Yeah I have a good number of Punisher covers as well and currently have him at level 77, I think I can get him to 89 right now. I'm thinking to level Punisher, Panther and keep OBW for now. I might look to level the 3* daken cause he sounds like he will be fun, and of course I am going to look at Human Torch, as a huge Fantastic Four fan.

BTW Simulator is the only place I have seen that Devil Dinosaur 4*. I never see him as a potential prize or anyone with him. Was he a promotional thing or is he only in that event.
 #163228  by Don
 Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:21 pm
Devil Dinosaur is a boss only character. His stats are way out of whack of what's fair.
 #163230  by M'k'n'zy
 Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:08 pm
I kinda figured that. Six green for the ridiculous damage he does is just too stupid. I just thought maybe he was a special given to the first hundred sign ups or something.
 #163232  by Don
 Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:48 am
Alliance PvP is some kind of sad combination of P2W and whoever tanks the best wins. I suspect the top PvP alliance are quite possible 2 tiers below the top competitive PvP bracket, because I almost never see those guys in my matchup list and I know I'm in the top competitive PvP bracket (everyone I play is maxed with the best characters in the game). It boils down to that your PvP rating is basically a reflection of your win/loss ratio against other players, but the top players win exactly as much as they lose against other top players, so the only way you can get ahead is by losing enough times in areas that don't count (Lightning Rounds, SHIELD training) so that you get opponents who have no shot at actually beating you to inflate your win/loss ratio. I don't actually care too much about P2W even though I see guys with a roster that must have cost thousands to build, but if you're going to spend that much money on a game, at least have some pride and try to actually fight against fellow top players instead of relying on exploits. If you want to exploit the game, why not just download some hack for infinite HP/iso 8? The sandbox mode for cheaters (they appear to gain points to themselves but no one is affected by their presence) is arguably more challenging than losing on purpose to get cupcakes, because while sandboxes you're still fighting guys appropriately difficult for your winning %. In fact it should be very tough opponents in general since if you use hacks, you should have every character maxed out and full boosts for everything, but even maxed roster + max boosts versus 141X3 is still more challenging than 141X3 versus guys that still have level 85 characters.
 #163233  by M'k'n'zy
 Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:56 am
I'm starting to feel a bit frustrated with this new event already. I've been so excited for Human Torch to launch, and less than a day in I am already up against level 170-230 NPC villians and 100+ venom and jugs. I can only imagine that by the end of this event I am going to be pretty much screwed in terms of being able to realisticly compete and score. I was really wanting to push hard on this one and try to get two torch covers (I know I have no chance at an allience one with a small alliance) but it looks like I am going to strugle to just get one cover 8^(
 #163234  by Don
 Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:26 am
The enemies in this event are very high because a lot of battles involve guys who cannot move the board. The buffed characters are OBW and Patch which is unbelievably in favor of the player, though if you don't have Patch you're basically missing one of the two legs of the powerhouse. Patch + OBW is an extremely potent offense and even the 230s can't really stand up to them, but doesn't help the guys who do not have Patch. Thor 2* is buffed too and should be usable.
 #163235  by M'k'n'zy
 Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:59 am
yeah I only have 4 patch covers and I think I can level him to 30 or so, which only helps so much. I also haven't invested in leveling Thor 2* much yet, I guess I will have to to have a chance here. Just would rather be putting the ISO into my Panther.
 #163239  by M'k'n'zy
 Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:05 am
So I have decided I am just going to focus on leveling my 3 star panther and replace 2 star wolveriene with him for now. With the trash mobs I am fighting mostly his black is really more useful than Wolverienes red. It's working overall but I still think top 50 and two covers is going to be out of my reach. In fact with how little points I am getting out of each mission I am questioning if it will even be possible to get to one of the lazy cap progression awards before the event ends.
 #163240  by Don
 Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:20 am
The points have to go up by a lot or nobody's going to be anywhere close to lazy cap's covers anyway.

Black Panther's black is extremely powerful. It's borderline P2W and does significant damage even to the out of whack HPs on PvE encounters, and any human level players certainly will be crippled by his black. For these missions, you got to have someone who can reasonably deal with the goon's countdowns since you can't count on match them forever. OBW should work out of the characters available at that range, though eventually you want Magneto classic or lazy Cap to deal with them, as both have the ability to overwrite any tile in the game and still doing significant damage at the same time.
 #163241  by M'k'n'zy
 Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:15 pm
Yeah right now I am using OBW to deal with the countdowns as best as I can, and using Black Panthers Black for damage. I have Lazy Cap in even though I only have the one yellow cover for him just for the hp pool and his match 3 damage. Right now OBW and Cap are matching all colors, and my only weak color with this team is green. My current plan is that once I level up Panther I am going to level up Torch, and I know he will cover green. I am looking forward to seeing how he plays out because as I said I am a huge Fantastic Four fan, and hope that one day I can have a full team of FF members.

On an unrelated note, I took advantage of the anniversary sale and got some hero points I hadn't used yet a while back, and took a gamble on the best there is pack, got one patch and 2 xforce wolvies. Kinda nice I have all 3 colors for 4* wolvie now, and I think all 3 colors for Patch, so if I really wanted to (which I likely wont cause I don't want to let myself get out of control) I could buy covers manually for Patch if I decide I want to go that route.
 #163242  by Don
 Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:49 pm
The 10 pack is okay if you're missing a certain cover but otherwise upgrading is much more reliable.

I'm still waiting for the Steam 66% off sale that they did during the same time of their big sales, but I think that might take a while.
 #163243  by M'k'n'zy
 Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:55 pm
Yeah at the time I didn't have all three covers for Patch, so it got me the one that I needed, which was worth it to me. With me leveling Panther, do you think I would be better off going for Patch or Punisher next?
 #163244  by Don
 Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:08 pm
Assuming covers are not an issue, if you don't have Spiderman or Magneto to support Patch, The Punisher is probably a better choice. Without one of those two you'd have to go 5y and most likely can't get 5g (it's way too dangerous to yourself too) and while his regen is pretty good too, The Punisher probably does more overall when you can't drop a team in one turn with Patch's 5g, since if they don't go down in one turn after a Berserker Rage, you'd be taking some seriously massive damage too.

Note that if the enemy can't match tiles (all goons), Patch is pretty much always the best offensive character because you can drop a Berserker Rage without worrying about side effects most of the time.
 #163247  by M'k'n'zy
 Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:22 am
Yeah Panther and Punisher are the two 3* characters I have the most covers for, I think I have 9 for each right now. I haven't entirely given up hope on getting two Torch covers out of this event, but for now it's looking like I am going to be struggling to get just one. This event is really kicking my ass, I don't know if it's just luck or what, but it just seems like the average game none of my key colors are droping, eg blue for OBW and black for Panther. I've had a couple of games yesterday where I went all the way through to the first countdown going off without me or the computer having a signle blue match the entire time, which is kinda rediculous. OBW blue is really the only way I have to deal with countdowns, unless I want to throw in Bagman for them, which, well, no. This event is getting really frustrating, espically coming off of Simulator where I felt like I did really well. It just seems like the more I advance, and the more I start getting closer to having a good number of covers and really leveling up some 3* characters, the more I am struggling, which is really frustrating.
 #163248  by Don
 Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:00 pm
You must have some pretty bad luck because this event's overall difficulty is way lower than Simulator Basic. Do you have a Captain America for the mission he's required in? Those are usually extremely easy. Some of them are at level 55 for me despite the other missions being at 230. The non character-required missions are getting harder since Daken is showing up more often, but it's still relatively easy overall. There are a lot of Maggia type goons which are probably the strongest goons overall, but that also means you can steal blue most of the time to power Anti-Grav faster.

If you have Moonstone, you can try to steal a Threaten tile, though I haven't needed to use that tactic in a while. My general strategy is just Berserker Rage to kill whoever has the lowest HP or the lone villian (a lot of them only has one villian), and then OBW double dips on strike tiles and makes quick work of everything else. I have Magneto too for total overkill, but usually OBW's double hit on espionage chews through enemy HP fast enough.
 #163249  by M'k'n'zy
 Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:12 pm
I do have a single lazy cap cover and am using him but what I'm running in to is that those missions are giving me 400 to 750 ish points each and then I still take enough damage I'm out for a bit because usually with all the countdown tiles I can't heal as well as I'd like. Also in five tries I have never been able to clear the daken/bullseye mission or even come close and that is my best payout offered at a little over 1100. No matter what I do I can't seem to get much higher than 80/90 in the rankings because of a couple of missions I just can't compete. I don't know maybe I just suck.
 #163250  by Don
 Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:23 pm
Daken is probably the strongest level 230 character in the game because his ability scales way too well with additional levels beyond what he's meant to. If you don't have a cheap trick just avoid Daken. He's only present in one of the nodes if I recall, which is why I said the mission is easy. When I actually have to fight Daken, it gets rough too, but I don't do that very often.

You should be able to do the Captain America required nodes twice or so and that should get you caught up to about top 50 if you've been doing that consistently. If there are any high point mission that's easy for you to do, make sure you do those too. So far there's always at least one all goons missions and those ought to be easy barring very bad luck. It's quite possible to go through these missions without ever taking any damage.

Another simple advice that most people overlook is that if you have the goons with a powerful move that are about to go off, just quit the game instead. Taking 1/3 damage for your whole team is generally still less than taking a high level Tommy Gun or even a fairly simple attack like Pistols. In these fights, don't make a blue match on the first turn if they can generate blue AP so you can steal it later. In terms of enemy distribution, you want to kill the Thugs last out of the Maggias, but you don't want to leave it at 100% HP either because the Pistols it uses is very fast (4 yellow AP) so you can't count on stopping them all. You want someone with a more expensive and slower ability like Threaten so that the Thugs can't spam Pistols, but if everything's under control, you want to then start working on the Thug's HP before you finish whoever was keeping them from using their yellow. For the HAMMER guys, Pyros are more dangerous than Grenadier (Flamethrower does very slihgtly less damage but takes only 4 turns to activate instead of 6). If a Grenadier and a Soldier are both up, consider leaving the Grenadier at a low health while working on the soldier, since the same issue applies here. The soldier can spam a lot of assault rifles versus the Grenadier only does a single Rocket with a 6 turn countdown. Obviously, if you've a solid control of the board none of that matters, but sometimes you're barely stopping the CDs and you want the enemy to use the abilities that can't be spammed easily and takes a long time to activate.

Note that Maggia Don is pretty much harmless if he's the only person left. Yes he occasionally causes cascades but unless you let a 10 turn CD Trap resolve, none of his abilities does any damage, so he's usually safe to leave for last.
 #163268  by M'k'n'zy
 Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:07 am
So I pushed really hard and managed to get two torch covers. Unfortunatly I currently have no way of getting the third yet, so not sure how to use him. What I have seen from him so far though I like. Looking forward to getting to used a buffed up version in the event starting today to see if I really want to try to get him running. My Panther is level 89 as well now, I think I can get him another couple of levels before buying another cover. Slowly starting to get some respectable 3* characters going.
 #163269  by Shrinweck
 Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:00 pm
I haven't gotten a three star cover in a damned long time. They're all still crawling around at 40-50. Plus I'm not sure how well The Hood/Hulk/Punisher/Iron Man would work in any combination (since I'd probably still be using OBW). I'm kicking myself for all the three star spider-man covers I've thrown out over all these months. He'd probably be 80ish.

I should have buckled down and played more during that last event with Punisher progression rewards.
 #163270  by Don
 Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:53 pm
I think they'll make the next event with relatively easy to hit progression rewards because literally nobody got anywhere close to the 93333 for Captain America on Heroic Jugg (doubt anyone even broke 56K).
 #163272  by Don
 Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:32 pm
Thought it's pretty funny with the LR nerfed and all these guys saying how all it took was like preserverance or something to win those, even though they were unbracketed so if it was really easy for everyone to come in top 25... well... that's actually statistically impossible.

I mean, it was easy for me to get top 25 on those but I got effective level 200+ characters that are buffed for the event in pretty much the ideal configuration. The funny thing is the guys who say it's easy usually don't have Magneto, who is the prize for the LRs, so clearly it's not as easy as they say. Winning Magneto's round is actually really, really hard.
 #163274  by M'k'n'zy
 Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:39 pm
I have to be completely honest right now. I just read the thread about sandboxing on the official forums, and I am tempted. With my curent situation, working two jobs, almost every event ends when I am at work. The idea of being able to play the event and enjoy it, and not get screwed out of rewards or having to dissapear into the bathroom at work or time my lunch to be the 30 minutes before an event ends, or even sit in the car for an hour after work to finish off an event sounds really appealing to me. I enjoy the game, I really do, but a situation where I can not be penalized for playing at my own pace sounds incredible to me right now.
 #163275  by Don
 Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:02 pm
They should really offer that as a mode, like you should be able to turn it on and whenever you turn it off it resets to your last 'legit' state or whatever. Some of these hectic schedules and massive tanking to stay competitive is not very fun.

Maybe you can get another account (phone and Steam accounts are separate) and just get banned on the new account instead.

Note that even while sandboxed, the opponents you see still continue to gain/lose points because they're real players, just that you can't interact with them. That is if someone in your PvE bracket scored 1000000 points he'd still be #1 over you unless you scored more. In PvP you generally should be able to easily finish first just because nobody can possibly attack you, but in PvE it is far less certain because there's no way to lose points in PvE.
 #163276  by Don
 Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:56 pm
So I actually lost enough in the last LRs and now I'm fighting teams that have less combined level than a single character on my team (141). No wonder people are able to get to ratings of 900 easily, since I know the professional tankers go out of their way to purposely lose instead of just putting on a weak team for other people to beat them.
 #163300  by M'k'n'zy
 Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:54 am
So I am kinda excited about the Falcon event after managing to pull off two top ten finishes for Heroic Venom normal. I didn't get very far into deadly this time around, and honestly didn't even really try, I just focused on getting a good rating on normal. My Panther is up to level 103 and fully covered now, and I only need two more to max out my Punisher. Depending on how Falcon's covers turn out I am kinda thinking of maybe going for a Panther/Punisher/Falcon team.

I like the mix for Falcons colors at least being yellow (passive) blue (passive) purple, we just wont know what they do for another couple of hours. If they are solid this seems like it could be a great time to put together.

BTW Shin I am trying to start using the Alliance chat, if you want to drop in a message.
 #163303  by Don
 Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:39 pm
Deadly was pretty nuts. I had level 260 enemies at the end of round 1 and didn't even bother clearing to the end of round 2.

Not sure what to make of Falcon's ability yet since it seems like some of his abilities might behave differently when maxed (especially blue).
 #163309  by Don
 Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:33 pm
Alliance reward getting nerfed to 250 HP for top placement instead of 500 HP and there's a massive preemptive whining thread by SHIELD members about how they'd no longer be able to P2W without the P part. I give it two weeks before SHIELD finally loses to 5DV in PvP and then claim they just weren't that interested, the same way they always got hammered in PvE because they 'didn't take it seriously', because the guys in 5DV are spending some serious money to keep up with SHIELD at all given how SHIELD benefited immensely from a huge design mistake (500 HP for winning #1 is self-sustaining, and is very dumb because the game dev makes no money off the #1 team!)

The hilarious thing is that Bugpop (who is in SHIELD) who can be found on the definition of P2W is totally fine with the change. That guy was in my bracket and I saw him shield and unshield 5 times in 2 hours to take #1 to work on his second Invisible Woman. I estimate they got about 5-10 genuine P2W guys, as in guys who spend over $1000 on this game, and the rest of the team is just riding on the money on the P2W guys. I actually have no problem with guys spending thousands doing well in this game (someone's got to pay for the bills), but hopefully this change will stop others from simply riding on the coattails of the rich guys.
 #163315  by M'k'n'zy
 Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:59 am
So my inability to keep up with this event has pushed me over the edge to go to the sandbox I think. I just can't keep up I don't have enough time with two jobs to keep up with something like this at a competitive level. Unfortunatly everything I have found so far for a cheat tool to send me into the sandbox has been locked behind an infinite survey wall. Any ideas? I'm using the Android version.
 #163317  by Don
 Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:56 am
Not everyone has to do well in every event. The Falcon doesn't look that special, and this event is long and people will likely slow down soon due to the community scaling.
 #163318  by M'k'n'zy
 Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:23 am
Yeah, but the problem is that the next pvp and everything will reqire him, plus he will likely be the main boosted character or have propriatary nodes in the next pve, and that is going to put me at a major disadvantage unless I am willing to spend more money on hero points, which I am no longer willing to do. I have enjoyed the game a long time but I'm at a point where I am not wanting to put any more money into it. I just don't see another option that will let me play at my pace other than dumping tons of money into HP. It's started getting really frustrating. I actually have a decent leveled torch, and he is working well with my 105 Panther and my buffed OBW, but I am still running into nodes I am struggling to clear, and most of the stuff ends when I am at one job or the other, so I can't get a good rank on each overall area. Just really frustrating at this point.