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  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
 #165021  by Don
 Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:02 pm
Anyone getting this game? I bought this but it seems like it's pretty hard to play on a keyboard. I got to level 3 even though I have no idea how to allocate my stats. Probably going to buy a controller before trying because I keep on whiffing on my combos. Seems like a pretty good game, assuming I ever figure out how to do combos.
 #165022  by Eric
 Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:14 pm
Thought about buying it, but I saw a playthrough of the campaign and changed my mind, I always look at these games and think to myself "They can do better...." Seems like the most minimal amount of effort goes into them. Most prevelent stat seemed to be powering up and them spamming a special move, or going super saiyan then spamming a special move. Physical attacks did next to no damage from what I saw. I was kinda surprised that the dub seems even worse then I remembered. Frieza's new voice actor was great, but dear lord Cell's VA sounded awful.
 #165023  by Oracle
 Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:15 pm
I was thinking about it.

Can you describe the gameplay better than steam does? Is it just a story-progression fighting game, or are there out of fight elements as well (that aren't just cut scene)?
 #165026  by Don
 Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:30 pm
Well I'm using a keyboard so it's pretty hard for me to do stuff, but you've a weak attack and a strong attack (left/right mouse) and you can combo them into stuff, like air combos and stuff that I always whiff because using a keyboard is hard. You have your super bars for using special moves, and if you block at exactly the right time you get some of your super bar filled. The basic premise is that someone is changing the history of DBZ and you're a guy sent back in time to correct it. For example the first mission you do is against Raditz. In this timeline he dodged the charge from Gohan so he eventually killed Goku and Piccolo so you've to be there to ensure that Raditz still dies like how it's supposed to be in the story. One of the opening scenes showed another timeline where Cell attempted to kill Hercules and the player arriving on time to stop that to prevent history from being changed.

There's another mode calll Parallel quest which I have no idea what it is yet because I haven't tried it but it seems like it's more of an open world mode where you fight multiple things. I got a scouter and the tutorial makes it look like you can use it to find enemies in an open world environment and so on, which I assume isn't part of the story mode because it sure is very obvious who you're supposed to fight in the story mode.

I don't envision the game is supposed to be super complicated in terms of mechanics. I mean, it's Dragonball. You earn zeni and level up and I have no idea what I can do with my attribute points, though you can buy gear/clothing/accessories/moves with zeni. Your character can be Earthling, Saiyan, Nemekian, Frieza race, or Majin and the stats differ from races/gender. For example Saiyans have increased stats when revived.

By the way you can use the Steam broadcast feature to see how it plays. I was just watching people that looks like in the middle of a fight, even though 90% of the guys broadcasting was in another language (though voice actors are still all in English). It seems like you eihter have to be sort of good or level up your characters because all the videos I saw on Frieza people lost half of their lifebar in one move.
 #165028  by Eric
 Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:16 am
Don wrote:Well I'm using a keyboard so it's pretty hard for me to do stuff, but you've a weak attack and a strong attack (left/right mouse) and you can combo them into stuff, like air combos and stuff that I always whiff because using a keyboard is hard. You have your super bars for using special moves, and if you block at exactly the right time you get some of your super bar filled. The basic premise is that someone is changing the history of DBZ and you're a guy sent back in time to correct it. For example the first mission you do is against Raditz. In this timeline he dodged the charge from Gohan so he eventually killed Goku and Piccolo so you've to be there to ensure that Raditz still dies like how it's supposed to be in the story. One of the opening scenes showed another timeline where Cell attempted to kill Hercules and the player arriving on time to stop that to prevent history from being changed.

There's another mode calll Parallel quest which I have no idea what it is yet because I haven't tried it but it seems like it's more of an open world mode where you fight multiple things. I got a scouter and the tutorial makes it look like you can use it to find enemies in an open world environment and so on, which I assume isn't part of the story mode because it sure is very obvious who you're supposed to fight in the story mode.

I don't envision the game is supposed to be super complicated in terms of mechanics. I mean, it's Dragonball. You earn zeni and level up and I have no idea what I can do with my attribute points, though you can buy gear/clothing/accessories/moves with zeni. Your character can be Earthling, Saiyan, Nemekian, Frieza race, or Majin and the stats differ from races/gender. For example Saiyans have increased stats when revived.

By the way you can use the Steam broadcast feature to see how it plays. I was just watching people that looks like in the middle of a fight, even though 90% of the guys broadcasting was in another language (though voice actors are still all in English). It seems like you eihter have to be sort of good or level up your characters because all the videos I saw on Frieza people lost half of their lifebar in one move.
NO, bad Don, call him Mr. Satan damnit! lol

But yeah I found the remixed timeline stuff uninspired. It's basically an excuse to fight the main bad guy in each DBZ story-arc with your custom fighter who is apparently able to fight both frieza's henchmen & majin buu at about the same level. The only one I found kinda cool was when Captain Ginyu decides to fight with the entire Ginyu Force instead of leaving with the Dragon Balls(He sends Guildo instead) which results in him stealing your custom character's body, and just makes all sorts of weird changes. They could have done more of this but they really didn't. Most of the timeline changes suck, and involve the main villain getting some sort of power-up they didn't get before, and changes very very little. Like Frieza goes from his 1st form to his 4th form instantly which means Goku doesn't have time to heal, so you have to "buy time" which basically results in your fighting Frieza like 4 times.

It's very hard to go from Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm's series to this gameplay wise, it's significantly simpler and more cinematic. Naruto actually have strategy to it at a high level.
 #165031  by Don
 Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:53 am
I wasn't sure if the American audience is familiar with his real name (Mr. Satan) so I used the English one.

Based on what I heard Naruto games are unusually good. Even the guys who spend all their time crying about how Naruto sucks didn't have much negative to say about the game. I remember looking at the game and was like 'wow they actually made Naruto look cool'. I haven't played a Dragonball game in a long time but I'm pretty sure they were never known for their depth of gameplay.
 #165125  by Don
 Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:38 am
I'm getting totally stomped by pretty much anyone and all I can do is run as far as possible and spam fireballs. If I try to punch the guys they just block and even if I hit they all seem to have some kind of combo breaker move that totally beats me up.

I've heard there are DBZ games where the characters are to scale which means you'd never be able to beat a SSJ4 as Raditz no matter what. For that matter any earthling origin guy generally can never beat a Saiyan.
 #165164  by Don
 Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:08 pm
I must have died 50 times on Frieza. In terms of difficulty it literally is like trying to fight his final form with anyone but Goku. There should have been at least another save point somewhere between the phases (form 1, final form, Vegeta dies, Goku arrives, Goku uses spirit bomb), though after Krillin dies you can just hide in a corner and Goku will easily defeat Frieza by himself.

After that you team up with Mr. Satan on Perfect Cell. I suspect Mr. Satan could've beaten Cell very easily by himself even though the fight says 'Protect Hercule'. It's pretty hilarious because Cell was doing a Kamehameha and Mr. Satan said, "Your lights and tricks can't fool me" and threw a grenade and KOed Cell. He had a jetpack too so he can fight in air.
 #165165  by Eric
 Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:18 am
I feel like you're not abusing super special blast attacks enough, that or you haven't done enough side-stuff to level appropriately?
 #165166  by Don
 Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:22 am
You can't spam fireballs on him because he pretty much one shots your helpers with his supers and then you no longer have enough distance to throw fireballs all day until Goku arrives, but Goku can pretty much take him straight on even without being a Super Saiyan if you survived that long (that's the hard part). If you try to punch him he has the combo breaker that does insane damage, and his supers are pretty hard to dodge. The rest of the fights there's usually someone you can hide behind and just do your fireballs all day and it's relatively easy. You also don't have any good moves early on unless you buy them. I bought Kamehameha and that helped a lot compared to whatever junk you started with.
 #165245  by Don
 Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:14 pm
It seems like it plays surprisingly like Diablo in the sense that all you do is hit attack button and you don't even really dodge very much stuff just like how Diablo 3 turned out to be, and it's all about farming for the gear or the super moves. In retrospect, I should've suspected that my initial move of 'throw fireball very fast', as in the generic fodder guy throws a lot of fireballs and you always see the opponent walks out unscathed and owns the guy in one hit, probably wasn't a very good special move. It uses up 3 super bars and does less damage than a 1 super bar Kamehameha.