Ok... The Bouncer...

[Oracle]

<div style='font: bold 12pt "Comic Sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>I beat it for the first time in 1:30, beat it 4 times total to power up all my guys full. About a total of 4-5 hours game play. got all the vs. Characters.... And this is my second day of renting it.... WOW.... thank god I did just that, RENT it.... The Vs. mode is pretty cool, pretty much identical to Thrill Kill for the PSX. The game coulda been longer.... no wait, IT SHOULD HAVE been longer.... fucking fighting games. I wish someone would just make one so rediculously long that I'd actually get tired of playing it before beating it so I could pick it up later.... bah....</div>

[Oracle]

<div style='font: bold 12pt "Comic Sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>that Durageon C. Mikado guy is fucking nuts the 3rd time around.... I HAD to use Kuo maxed out, cause frankly, Sion just didnt cut it.... That was just dumb....</div>

[Insane Cultist Edge]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>I don't know why people at tows are even playing Bouncer, all the mags already gave it poor reviews, and there's nothing innovative or special about it</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>Coz your a poor excuse for a gamer. Purely biased that your opinion is worth less than snot.</div>

[Insane Cultist Edge]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>It's not my opinion, it's the opinion of pretty much all gaming magazines, you're the one who's anti-Nintendo, Anti-Sega, and Anti-Microsoft here, you're the one with the bias</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>Not true. I'm anti-Seeker. Like everyone else should be.</div>

[Insane Cultist Edge]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Yes true, look at any gaming magazine, find one that scores The Bouncer good and Soul Calibur bad</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>Look at my mini-review of The Bouncer down below. Does it look like I said it was good? Does it look like I said SC is bad? Well? Drunken fool.</div>

[Insane Cultist Edge]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>You seam to have a problem with my post above, that means you must disagree with it</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>Yes I do. Just because the game isn't as good as another doesn't mean we can't(or shouldn't) enjoy it. See my POV?</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Soul Caliber is probably one of the worst fighting engines ever made. It's sole selling point, which the reviewers fell for is it's great graphics. You should stop letting the magazines choose which games you should like, they're not very good at it.</div>

[Insane Cultist Edge]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Anyways, what features of the game make it enjoyable?</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>The story, the somewhat fun fighting style. It's not a bad game nor is it a great game.</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>Does that really need to be said?</div>

[Brack Rotus]

<div style='font: 10pt papyrus, Modern; text-align: left; padding: 0% 7% 0% 7%; '>I disagree. What was bad about the fighting engine?</div>

[Manshoon]

<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman", Modern; text-align: left; '>So you're saying the Tekken series has better gameplay than SC?</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt Modern; text-align: left; '>I don't think gaming magazine's would constantly rerefer to a game due to it's graphics if it's gameplay didn't also much the high par.</div>

[Insane Cultist Edge]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>I'm a poor excuse for a gamer because I use Magazines as references before buying games and because I love Soul Calibur????</div>

[Insane Cultist Edge]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Is it worth buying in your opinion as a huge fan of fighting games?</div>

[Insane Cultist Edge]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Yes, You said my opinion was biased, that means that you believe I am somehow biased</div>

[G-man Joe]

<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS", Modern; text-align: left; '>Read my mini-review from last week. Read the first line.</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>In it's essence it's a button-masher. I've never really liked that in any fighting game.

I'll admit I don't really hate it as much as it sounds from my previous post. It is fun to play when the other person doesn't play fighting games regularly. But when I'm playing against people who play fighters a lot, I'd rather play a game where experience helps.</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>I didn't really say that, but yeah, I actually do think that.</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>A lot of it's popularity came from how unbelievable it looked at the time. Similar games, even the same game at the arcade didn't get any type of fame...</div>

[BIack Lotus]

<div style='font: 9pt Modern; text-align: left; '>SC a Button Masher? Are you trying to make me laugh?</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>I just got kinda tired of seeing you jump on anyone who says anything about the Bouncer. 

The fact that you like Soul Calibur doesn't really matter. If you like it, that's great.

You aren't using magazines as a reference to buying a game yourself, you're using it to make OTHERS feel that they wasted money.</div>

[BIack Lotus]

<div style='font: 9pt Modern; text-align: left; '>That makes him an asshole, not a poor excuse of a gamer</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Well, it could be more technical than I give it credit for, and I did find some really cool combos with a couple characters. But when every character has 3-strings A,A,A and B,B,B and C,C,C, it's hard for me not to call it a button-masher.</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>My bad.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Well the same could be said of Metal Gear Solid 2.</div>

[Don]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>I think the game would get a lot less recognition/hype if it didn't look that good.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt Modern; text-align: left; '>You don't say?</div>

[Pete Wisdom]

<div style='font: 12pt Garamond, Modern; text-align: left; '>...they aren't sheep clinging to every word of game magazine writers, whose opinions have no greater significance just because they are in print, and want to form their own opinion? I hope you get paid to suck all this game editor dick...

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<span style="background: black; color: black;">...and I'd take Virtua Fighter 2 and Tekken 2 over Soul Calibur any day of the week. I played Soul Calibur for about 2 weeks and haven't touched it since, I've played VF2 and Tekken 2 on a fairly regular basis for almost 4 years now...</span></div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt Modern; text-align: left; '>This must be EsquE.......hehe.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt Modern; text-align: left; '>You must be thinking od Soul Edge.</div>

[BIack Lotus]

<div style='font: 9pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Have you ever played Soul Calibur for Sega Dreamcast?</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>It may be true. I'm sure it's graphics are really important in the hype it's getting and deservedly so. There is a slight difference though. Chances are better for MGS2 to have better gameplay since MGS1 was a game with great gameplay. Soul Caliber was a sequel to Soul Edge. I actually own Soul Edge, but I don't remember anyone ranting and raving about the gameplay of that fighter.

Either way, I'm definately falling for the MGS2 hype. And in the rare occurence that after I buy MGS2 it turns out god-awful, oh well, at least I made up my mind for myself.</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>No, I'm sure I'm talking about Soul Caliber.</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Nope, never. I formed this opinion by reading game magazines.</div>

[Brack Rotus]

<div style='font: 10pt papyrus, Modern; text-align: left; padding: 0% 7% 0% 7%; '>Zing.</div>

[Eric]

<div style='font: 11pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Well evidently you can't be talking about Soul Caliber because button combos don't go like that.</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>And those lend well to button mashers.

I gave the game a chance, and it wasn't for me.</div>

[Manshoon]

<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman", Modern; text-align: left; '>Then by all means enlighten me. Tekken is much more of a button masher than SC is, and it's far more limiting all-around.</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>You're right Tekken can be a button-masher too. I've actually played against people who don't look at the screen at all when they play. As far as I know, the only people I've seen button mash successfully, have been Eddy users in Tekken 3 or Baek in Tekken 2. Tekken's been around in the arcades long enough that I've seen a lot of different things. Tekken is more limiting when it comes to movement, but I was thinking more along the lines of actual moves and combos. And from what I've seen, and I'm no expert at SC, Tekken's combos are more complex. Maybe SC is just as complex, but I didn't see any of it from it's short run at the arcades.

SC does have some really good points though. 8-way run is awesome, and I hear that the parry system is something worth learning...

Man, I'm starting to regret ripping on SC, people were real quick to defend it.</div>

[Manshoon]

<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman", Modern; text-align: left; '>If you want a complex combo try Ivy's Summon Suffering. That one's an absolute bitch to pull off. But IMO Tekken's got too many dial-a-combos.</div>

[Kupek]

<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma, Modern; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>And Jennifer Love Hewitt wouldn't get any movie roles if she wasn't so hot. Point? While true, it's a rather intrinsic part of the game, and one of the things that will make it so cool to play. Good graphics are fun to look at, I have no qualms admitting that.</div>

[Pete Wisdom]

<div style='font: 12pt Garamond, Modern; text-align: left; '>Damn straight...it's the only reason I watch all her movies :)</div>

[Insane Cultist Edge]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>The gaming magazines actually say the opposite</div>

[Darx]

<div style='font: 12pt Modern; text-align: left; '>Well, I'll be damned. I guess I'll just have to change my opinion then.</div>