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  • One word can describe the series finale of Voyager...  Godawesome!

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Your favorite band sucks, and you have terrible taste in movies.
 #44836  by Red Eye
 Wed May 23, 2001 9:59 pm
<div style='font: 14pt Draconwick; text-align: left; '>One word can describe the series finale of Voyager... Godawesome!</div>

 #44841  by Ishamael
 Thu May 24, 2001 2:09 am
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Yep, pretty damned good episode. It was cool seeing Admiral Janeway come back in time...Can't believe it, but Voyager has grown on me. It's still no Next Generation or Deep Space 9 though...</div>

 #44842  by Lox
 Thu May 24, 2001 2:48 am
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Yes, it was very good. I'm gonna miss the show. It definately grew on me over the years.</div>

 #44846  by Zeus
 Thu May 24, 2001 6:49 am
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>We threw a party when it ended in celebration</div>
 #44848  by Tessian
 Thu May 24, 2001 8:16 am
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>Now, Redeye knows I was blown away by the episode while we were watching it (screaming back and forth at each other over ICQ) cause let's admit it.. the special effects were HELLA COOL! I mean, that armor on Voyager was just mouth watering.. not to mention the nebula and the battles and the monkeys and the... well ok maybe not the monkeys.
But, upon closer examination (and enlightening words from <a href="http://www.pvponline.com Target="new">Scott Kurtz</a>) the ending should have been a LOT better. I mean, we all knew they'd get home.. but what we wanted to know was what would happen when they did!
I mean, the debreifing and the secrets and the ship's unique upgrades and 7of9 and the doctor and the monkeys... well alright, doubt Starfleet would care about the monkeys (bastards). There's also the concept that Voyager's writers just killed off the freakin borg. Come on now,, what is Star Trek without the borg? They killed the queen and the nexus and most likely the entire collective,, now all we can fight is Species 8472? I'm goin' to miss assimilations

They could have done a LOT more with the show. "Paramount just spent seven years setting up a joke and never delivered the punchline" Not quite as harsh as I think... but it makes a point.</div>

 #44850  by Oracle
 Thu May 24, 2001 11:13 am
<div style='font: bold 12pt "Comic Sans MS"; text-align: left; '>DS9!!! DS9!!!</div>

 #44853  by Ishamael
 Thu May 24, 2001 3:02 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Don't make me slap you, dork...</div>

 #44854  by Judgment 1999
 Thu May 24, 2001 3:05 pm
<div style='font: 14pt Tahoma; text-align: left; '>Hell yeah, it kicked ass!</div>

 #44855  by El Kabong
 Thu May 24, 2001 3:51 pm
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I didn't watch it, but if it didn't end with Janeway taking them all to their deaths in the nearest blackhole... then I don't really care...</div>
 #44856  by Tessian
 Thu May 24, 2001 5:16 pm
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>Screw a happy ending, throw your audience for a loop with something like that! LoL, if they weren't going to show the aftermath of getting home, they should not have them come home at all.. Like Quantum Leap, poor Sam Beckett never came home :(</div>
 #44857  by Tessian
 Thu May 24, 2001 5:19 pm
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>It had its moments.. but besides the huge ass battles and O-dow's morphin.. it wasn't that good.

It wasn't horrible, but it was easily the worst of the 4 Star Trek's</div>

 #44858  by Ishamael
 Thu May 24, 2001 5:35 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Are you on crack? DS9 is second only to TNG. Voyager is far and way the worst out of all of them...easily...Harry Kim alone makes it that....</div>
 #44859  by Tessian
 Thu May 24, 2001 5:51 pm
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>DS9 was boring, they were stuck on a freakin starbase most of the time,, only when they got the Defiant did things get interesting. Most of the rest of the storylines were stretches at best.

I still enjoyed the show, I'm just saying the others were better</div>

 #44860  by Zeus
 Thu May 24, 2001 6:25 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>Replace the word "ending" with "series" and I would whole-heartedly agree</div>

 #44861  by WolfSamurai
 Thu May 24, 2001 6:28 pm
<div style='font: 14pt Agatha; text-align: left; '>No way. DS9 was a million times better than Voyager. I liked it better than TOS too.</div>

 #44862  by Lox
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:05 pm
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>It was one of my faves. Voyager was the worst but I still liked it a lot.</div>

 #44863  by Red Eye
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:25 pm
<div style='font: 14pt Draconwick; text-align: left; '>I have the DS9 finale on tape. Also have the finales for Voyager and Next Gen on tape.</div>

 #44864  by Lox
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:28 pm
<div style='font: bold 9pt ; text-align: left; '>Yeah, Kim was cool. So was Parris.</div>

 #44865  by S.Cody2
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:32 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "Copperplate Gothic"; text-align: left; '>What happened?</div>

 #44868  by Ishamael
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:35 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Dude. It's obvious you missed a LOOOOOT of DS9 eps if you still think that. I used to think that once upon a time until I finally gave it a chance and saw what they were trying to do with the story...</div>

 #44869  by Ishamael
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:36 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Harry Kim is the most boring character in the history of film. The only ep where he became interesting was when he came back in time to keep Voyager out of the slipstream...</div>

 #44870  by Ishamael
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:38 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Tom Paris grew on me eventually...They gave him a couple of facets to give him some flesh. But Kim is cardboard. And I dare you to say different. No kidding, I dare you!</div>

 #44871  by Ishamael
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:40 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>WTF? How'd this reply get here? ah well...</div>
 #44872  by Ishamael
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:41 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>It starts off with the crew in the future, but all is not well. It took them 16 years to get back and they've been on earth for an additonal 10 years. Tuvok suffered from some neurodegenerative disorder and Seven died on the way back. Chakotay died soon after their return to earth. Because of this series of events, *Admiral* Janeway wants to set the past straight.
So using a space/time travel doohicky she got from a Klingnon, she goes back to the younger Voyager. She wants them to go through the time thing, but the *Captain* Janeway refuses. Ya see it would require them to use a Borg Gateway (of which there are 6 in the Galaxy). The Gateways allow the Borg to quickly travel to all parts of the Galaxy. It's key to their dominance. *Captain* Janeway thinks they shoud destroy the Gateways...even if it means Voyager gets home.
So skipping a whole lotta stuff, the crew gets their cake and eats it too. With the help of superior technology brought back by *Admiral* Janeway, Voyager is able to destroy all the Gateways and end up at home.
The end.

To say that I glossed over some stuff is an understatement, but you get the general gist.</div>

 #44873  by Ishamael
 Thu May 24, 2001 10:42 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Yeah, even though it didn't live up to the others, it was still very watchable and better than most of the crap on tv...</div>

 #44875  by SineSwiper
 Thu May 24, 2001 11:52 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>No, Voyager is. It's the Gillian's Island of Star Trek. A three hour tour, a three hour tour!</div>
 #44876  by SineSwiper
 Fri May 25, 2001 12:03 am
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>I think somebody at ST watched that show and thought "Hey, continuous storylines are badass!" You'll notice that they didn't start doing that thing with DS9 until B5 was well into their own storyline.</div>

 #44877  by Crono
 Fri May 25, 2001 12:17 am
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Well, they wanted to basically end the threat of the Borg.... since this is the latest timeline of all their series (and the next one goes back to the beginning).</div>
 #44878  by Crono
 Fri May 25, 2001 12:18 am
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>...have them sacrifice themselves to destroy that Borg setup (by ramming into them) and totally shock us. But then again, a couple news shows have accidentally reported for weeks that "they make it home for sure."</div>

 #44879  by Crono
 Fri May 25, 2001 12:20 am
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I thought it was pretty good, but, it's hard NOT to feel let down by a Star Trek series finale (since there's way too much to just "sum up.")</div>

 #44880  by Ishamael
 Fri May 25, 2001 12:23 am
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>You've committed the worst sin -- letting an Internet dork make you change your mind. Think for yourself. If you liked it, you liked it. Don't let this Kurtz guy tell you otherwise.</div>

 #44886  by Tessian
 Fri May 25, 2001 8:20 am
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>I say different!!</div>
 #44887  by Tessian
 Fri May 25, 2001 8:22 am
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>I hadn't thought much about it until I read what he said. I mean he's right; they should have spent most of the episode dealing with the Aftermath of getting home.. not the whole damn thing on getting home; we all knew that would happen.</div>
 #44888  by Tessian
 Fri May 25, 2001 8:24 am
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>Somewhere towards the end I lost interest but came back for the last handful of episodes. Some of the stuff was just drawn out.. I dunno. I grew up watching TNG,, and I missed that. The exploring... *bell rings* ACK! g/g</div>

 #44892  by Kupek
 Fri May 25, 2001 11:40 am
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>That really reminds me of "All Good Things...", Next Generation's final two episodes.</div>

 #44897  by Red Eye
 Fri May 25, 2001 1:35 pm
<div style='font: 14pt Draconwick; text-align: left; '>Next Gen's was much better.</div>

 #44901  by Gilder
 Fri May 25, 2001 2:44 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Deep Space 9? I'm no hardcore Star Trek fan, but Deep Space 9 was WAY boring compared to Next Generation, Voyager, or even the orriginals</div>

 #44902  by Gilder
 Fri May 25, 2001 2:53 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I was certain Picard killed the Borg in that movie, guess I was wrong, I don't know, it sounds like an awesome ending to me, the best possible, but people will always complain no matter what on the Internet</div>

 #44904  by Gilder
 Fri May 25, 2001 2:56 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>That's why I like shows like Seinfeld and the Simpsons where there's nothing to sum up</div>

 #44905  by Ishamael
 Fri May 25, 2001 3:06 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>The Aftermath of getting home? What Aftermath? They meet their families and hug and kiss. Weee. Don't let yourself be brainwashed...</div>

 #44906  by Ishamael
 Fri May 25, 2001 3:06 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>By that very statement I can it's plainly obvious that you're not hardcore... ;)</div>

 #44907  by Ishamael
 Fri May 25, 2001 3:31 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Yep. DS9 did it the best. They basically had 10 part season finale (even though only the last show was the "official" season finale). Even then there were a couple of loose ends...</div>

 #44917  by Oracle
 Sat May 26, 2001 3:49 am
<div style='font: bold 12pt "Comic Sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Bring it you sissy bitch :) I'll whup your ass all over the unemployment office :)</div>

 #44923  by S.Cody2
 Sat May 26, 2001 10:51 am
<div style='font: 11pt "Copperplate Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Thanks. Is that sixteen years from the most recent episode, or from the start of Voyager as a whole?</div>

 #44924  by S.Cody2
 Sat May 26, 2001 10:52 am
<div style='font: 11pt "Copperplate Gothic"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, that was pretty much the only time he did something with character I've seen.</div>

 #44992  by S.Cody2
 Sun May 27, 2001 3:52 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "Copperplate Gothic"; text-align: left; '>It's easier on your brain because you don't have to think as much.</div>

 #44994  by Crono
 Sun May 27, 2001 7:10 pm
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Yah, true 'dat. Dedicating a good portion of the last season to "finalization" is the best bet... especially when you have advance warning that it's being cancelled (which Voyager knew since late 1999).</div>

 #44997  by SineSwiper
 Sun May 27, 2001 9:58 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>The best is when you know the ending before you start the series.</div>