First time in 17 years, Nintendo #1 again?

[kali o.]

Maybe we're not talking about the same article?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6171850.ht ... lt;title;1

And nowhere in that article did it state "all 187 downloadable game", just that they looked at 187 of them.

Well we aren't now...

Steps:

1) I posted a "187 d/l game" quote
2) You addressed the quote by referencing another article solely about VC games, stating a different number
3) I clarified that the article the quote was taken from (that Seeker provided) covered all 3 consoles, not simply the Wii
4) You linked to a whole new article supporting information no one questioned

That's where we are now. *shrug*

[Julius Seeker]

Downloadable games aren't retail games. The article clearly differentiates between the two. It makes perfect sense for the Wii to have more titles, it is selling WAY faster than the other two consoles.

Right...the Wii has over 120 retail games currently out. No wonder pretty much you alone are impressed with the 3rd party line up so far - access to all these mystery games must be nice.

I have no idea what you are trying to prove with this pointless statement that draws on or counters absolutely nothing that has been posted. Considering you're one to whine about sources, even for the most readily accessible information, I think it is time that you yourself bring some evidence to the table. Though, don't spend too long as you'd be wasting your time, you won't find anything to support an incorrect theory.

[kali o.]

I have no idea what you are trying to prove with this pointless statement that draws on or counters absolutely nothing that has been posted. Considering you're one to whine about sources, even for the most readily accessible information, I think it is time that you yourself bring some evidence to the table. Though, don't spend too long as you'd be wasting your time, you won't find anything to support an incorrect theory.

It counters your idiotic assertion that the Wii has released double the PS3 retail library. As for "proof", what incorrect theory of mine are you wanting proof for?

[Julius Seeker]

It counters your idiotic assertion that the Wii has released double the PS3 retail library. As for "proof", what incorrect theory of mine are you wanting proof for?

All you are doing is talking crap and continuing to talk crap in light of evidence you begged whined for, even when you bring absolutely nothing to the table to back anything you have said. Just because the evidence is fataly damaging to your case doesn't mean you can ignore it =P


Essentially you have achieved in countering nothing, all you have proven is that you have the capability to talk out of your ass.

[kali o.]

It counters your idiotic assertion that the Wii has released double the PS3 retail library. As for "proof", what incorrect theory of mine are you wanting proof for?

*yawn*

And I am laughing at your evidence because as usual, it is selective, misquoted and flaky. I just enjoy pointing that out...repeatedly.

Nothing is damaging to "my case", because my case has never been anything more than that you like sucking on Nintendo's shaft - and you provide all the proof for me.

[Chris]

that's it....now I'm gonna have to break this stupid shit up with a nasty frightening comment.....

Damn .....If Kali is talking out his ass then what the fuck am I gonna do in the meantime........

[Zeus]

that's it....now I'm gonna have to break this stupid shit up with a nasty frightening comment.....

Damn .....If Kali is talking out his ass then what the fuck am I gonna do in the meantime........

Drool? :-)

[Chris]

I was gonna go with he should stop sticking words in my mouth but that creeped even me out

[Flip]

This is why arguing with seek is futile... his evidence is always flawed, he pulls quotes out of context everytime, and then refuses to admit defeat when you point out the fact that his backup is awful. When you finally say something that you know hits home to him, he shrugs it off as beside the point, unrelated, or invalid... even when it isnt.

It is honestly like debating with a child. Anyone who thinks themselves intelligent can admit when they are wrong.

Lets take just ONE argument and break it down...

Seeker states this:

"the Wii has the widest range of developers and over 100 games in October and November alone, more than PS3 (35) and Xbox 360 (50) combined."

Kali countered with:

"I am too lazy to dig it up, but I know for a fact you pulled this same song and dance last year - only using some different list that happened to work for your bullshit at the time (Future Shop or Best Buy?). You went on about how the Wii had "by far" more releases for Nov/Dec/whatever, followed by the 360, then the PS3 "way behind". The reality is those months came and went, and Nintendo had the least titles/support, PS3 in second, while the 360 led the way."

Not counting VC and downloadable crap, did the Wii release more games than 360 and PS3 combined in Oct/Nov 2006 when you 'pulled the same song and dance'? No. An overwhelming NO! Why can you not see this and stop spew garbage about release schedules? Who gives a shit about schedules, it is about what actually comes out.

I can hardly wait until this Oct/Nov rolls around and we see what happens. I'm sure the game count and QUALITY game count will discount anything seeker is saying right now.

[SineSwiper]

Kali, why don't you put in some Seeker title of "Nintendo Fanboy" or something similar?

[Eric]

Kali, why don't you put in some Seeker title of "Nintendo Fanboy" or something similar?

Cause Seeker swears up and down he's not a Nintendo Fanboy after all these years, and will argue that the term fanboy can only be applied to people who like anime?

[Flip]

Whether Nintendo is #1 again or not will never change my opinion of what system to buy, but that is also due to my current lifestyle.

Like most people here nowadays, i dont have time to game a lot. Thus, a system only needs 3 or 4 games a year to entertain me. If you compare each systems 3 or 4 best titles (current or in the future) that i would buy, it would look like:

Wii - Metriod, Mario, Zelda, SSB, GH3
360 - Bioshock, Halo 3, DMC4, GTA4, GH3
PS3 - Heavenly Sword, Assassins Creed, FF13, Little Big World, GH3

So i have to weigh these options, taking into consideration that i can play DMC4, GTA4, AC, or GH3 on multiple (and in GH3's case, all) systems.

The Wii is tempting, but when comparing big budget amazing games to the other systems, it doesnt stand a chance in hell. The PS3, to me, still holds the most appeal and it will suit my purposes perfectly. This is not considering money, because i think i can afford any option. The Wii360 combo is worthless to me, though, because i cant play that many games.

[kali o.]

Kali, why don't you put in some Seeker title of "Nintendo Fanboy" or something similar?

Too scandalous apparently - blatant abuse and all that. It might make my redundancy too readily apparent as well...and that would never do.

Luckily, I do have something else in mind....

*evil laughter*

[bovine]

Whether Nintendo is #1 again or not will never change my opinion of what system to buy, but that is also due to my current lifestyle.

Like most people here nowadays, i dont have time to game a lot. Thus, a system only needs 3 or 4 games a year to entertain me. If you compare each systems 3 or 4 best titles (current or in the future) that i would buy, it would look like:

Wii - Metriod, Mario, Zelda, SSB, GH3
360 - Bioshock, Halo 3, DMC4, GTA4, GH3
PS3 - Heavenly Sword, Assassins Creed, FF13, Little Big World, GH3

So i have to weigh these options, taking into consideration that i can play DMC4, GTA4, AC, or GH3 on multiple (and in GH3's case, all) systems.

The Wii is tempting, but when comparing big budget amazing games to the other systems, it doesnt stand a chance in hell. The PS3, to me, still holds the most appeal and it will suit my purposes perfectly. This is not considering money, because i think i can afford any option. The Wii360 combo is worthless to me, though, because i cant play that many games.

Smash brothers justifies the wii. Ps3 lacks justification still. Especially when they have changed their entire SKU scheme in less than a year and also have announced changed to their controller, also before the console has reached its first birthday. Maybe in 1 or 2 more years it will have actually settled into itself. 360 is the best system for games at the moment. When you own that, there is very little reason to own the ps3 because of the limited amount of quality exclusives. Little big planet and ff13 are the only 2 games on the ps3 that are exclusives on your list, 2 games does not equal a worthwhile system. (I did not include heavenly sword because it is only rental worthy, I plan to finish it tonight)

[SineSwiper]

Wii - Metriod, Mario, Zelda, SSB, GH3
360 - Bioshock, Halo 3, DMC4, GTA4, GH3
PS3 - Heavenly Sword, Assassins Creed, FF13, Little Big World, GH3

Most reviews (including this awesome review) seem to give Heavenly Sword lackluster grades. Assassin's Creed, not out yet. FF13, yeah, okay. Little Big World, looks like a gimmick; it could be the next Katamari, but it could also be endless other games that try and fail to break the mold. (Not the kind of risk I would base a console-buying decision on.)

And your argument that you can't play that many games is noted, but honestly, not all of these games are out yet. It's not like you can buy most of these games anyway. (Bioshock and soon Halo 3 for the 360 are the only two.)

[Julius Seeker]

*yawn*

And I am laughing at your evidence because as usual, it is selective, misquoted and flaky. I just enjoy pointing that out...repeatedly.

Nothing is damaging to "my case", because my case has never been anything more than that you like sucking on Nintendo's shaft - and you provide all the proof for me.

You are accusing both Gamespot and IGN of reporting false information though you have provided no evidence to support this. It's fairly straight forward, there are no tricks involved, no misquoting; anyone who follows the links can see that plainly.
http://wii.gamespy.com/index/release.html
http://ps3.gamespy.com/index/release.html

Where is your evidence that Wii is dead last in terms of the numbers of games released? Where is your evidence that Wii has fewer games being released than the Xbox 360 and PS3 over the next two months? Where is your evidence of anything else you have said? The reason why you haven't presented any is because it does not exist. Instead you have resorted to taking a childish tantrum throwing incredibly lame insults in my direction. Seriously, what is your plan? To hurt my feelings? Hahaha, lame.

[kali o.]

You are accusing both Gamespot and IGN of reporting false information though you have provided no evidence to support this.

I have done neither...what I HAVE done is accused you of selective quotation and general fanboy fellatio.

Where is your evidence that Wii is dead last in terms of the numbers of games released?

I never said that...in fact, I stated the opposite. You are either confused by my statement that the Wii is DEAD LAST for announced games or, as usual, you are selectively misquoting. I stated that the PS3 had the least by 5...that was incorrect. I stated roughly correct numbers after - feel free to confirm them via gamerankings or gamefaqs or whatever list site you prefer...any of them will make your statement that "the Wii released double the retail games of PS3 and 360 over the first 7 months" look retarded.

Where is your evidence that Wii has fewer games being released than the Xbox 360 and PS3 over the next two months?

Where did I state that? Despite my opinion that arguing ever-changing release lists is stupid, I have no doubt there will be plenty of companies gleefully porting their PS2 projects and B-Team low budget games to the Wii for a quick holiday buck.

Where is your evidence of anything else you have said?

That you are a Nintendo cock gobbler that pulls the same shit every year? That you exaggerate and selectively quote random online references to support whatever silly point you hope to make? You provide that evidence for me...I have nothing to prove there. The Shrine has an archive, anyone that wants to see what you said last year (or for more amusement, the idiocy you spewed throughout the GC's lifetime) is free to refresh their memories.

The reason why you haven't presented any is because it does not exist.

I've proven my point.

Instead you have resorted to taking a childish tantrum throwing incredibly lame insults in my direction. Seriously, what is your plan? To hurt my feelings? Hahaha, lame.

I will admit the lameness. Too much NHL 08 and Bioshock has left me posting usually with little sleep. About all I have in my arsenal is a few variations of "dick sucker"... But really now, what more do I really need in this thread?

*shrug*

By the way, for my amusement, please let me know which titles have you so hot and wet for Oct/Nov...

Bratz: Movie Starz?
Balls of Fury?
Hot Wheels: Beat That?
Mercury Meltdown Revolution?
Ninjabread Man?
Billy the Wizard: Rocket Broomstick Racing?
Counter Force?
Hooked! Real Motion Fishing?
Looney Tunes: Acme Arsenal?
Rock 'N' Roll Adventures?
Avatar: The Last Airbender?
Blast Works: Build, Fuse & Destroy?
Code Lyoko?
Octomania?
Thrillville: Off the Rails?
Ultimate Board Game Collection?
Balloon Pop?
Disney Princess: Enchanted Journey?
Luxor: Pharaoh's Challenge?
Namco Museum Remix?
Nicktoons: Attack of the Toybots?
Barbie Island Princess?
Bee Movie Game?
Ben 10?
Dancing With The Stars?
Hannah Montana: Spotlight World Tour?
Simpsons Game?
Monkey King?
Spy Games: Elevator Mission?
Game Party?
High School Musical: Sing It!?
My Word Coach?
Puppy Luv?
Catz 2007?
Dogz 2007?
Garfield Gets Real?
Geometry Wars: Galaxies?
Godzilla: Unleashed?
Horsez 2?
Jenga?
Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords?
Star Trek: Conquest?
Link's Crossbow Training?
Smartypants?
SpongeBob's Atlantis SquarePantis?
Cranium Kabookii?
CSI?
Agatha Christie: And Then There Were None?
Furu Furu Park?

That's the majority of that IGN/Gamespy list...feel free to let us all know what you'll personally be playing.

[Blotus]

Garfield Gets Real?

Come now, we've all been waiting for this one.

[SineSwiper]

Ninjabread Man!

Best...game...ever!

[Julius Seeker]

You are accusing both Gamespot and IGN of reporting false information though you have provided no evidence to support this.

I have done neither...what I HAVE done is accused you of selective quotation and general fanboy fellatio.

So then what is this about?

In response to the release lists from IGN.com

"in this case, the slim Oct/Nov window in IGNs notoriously inaccurate date list"

And from the article linked from Gamespot, which I will note, VERY CLEARLY lists the distinction between downloadable games and retail games:

"Of course you'd selectively pull a quote from a random article inappropriately using the word "retail" but included VC games"

Again, where is your evidence that supports your ridiculous claims?

In addition: the holiday season release schedule can hardly be discarded as a "slim window."

Where is your evidence that Wii is dead last in terms of the numbers of games released?

I never said that...in fact, I stated the opposite. You are either confused by my statement that the Wii is DEAD LAST for announced games or, as usual, you are selectively misquoting. I stated that the PS3 had the least by 5...that was incorrect. I stated roughly correct numbers after - feel free to confirm them via gamerankings or gamefaqs or whatever list site you prefer...any of them will make your statement that "the Wii released double the retail games of PS3 and 360 over the first 7 months" look retarded.

Right here douche bag: "better to use that than ANY of the previous months....or TOTAL announced games...because either of those would show the Wii DEAD last "

You were essentially saying that any list from any other month besides October and November would show Wii dead last. Though I still don't see your evidence to support this.





I also don't give a crap about your version of the Wii release list, the games am I getting for certain from a real release list: Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, Super Mario Galaxy, NiGHTS 2, Harvey Birdman: Attorney At Law (It's Capcom, and is similar to Phoenix Wright! That's all I need to know!), Endless Ocean, and Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles. My most anticipated game of the year is Super Smash Brothers Brawl which is out after those two months, at the start of December.

I am strongly considering Sims 2: The Castaways, Quest for Barbaros' Treasure, Mario and Sonic Olympics, Trauma Center: New Blood, Geometry Wars: Galaxies, Lego Starwars: The Complete Saga, Guitar Hero 3, The Simpsons game, Code Lyoko, Donkey Kong Racing, and Battalion Wars 2 (probably forgetting some).

As for the rest of your post it's not worth reading something filled littered your bizarre homo-erotic fixation on blowjobs; seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Ninjabread Man!

Best...game...ever!

Haha, I missed that one, that is the fucking best game name I think I have ever come across =P