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  • First Randy Couture, now Tito Ortiz

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #116601  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:55 pm
Tito Ortiz follows Randy Couture and bashes Dana White and the UFC before leaving. Whether or not he will fight the final fight on his contract remains to be seen. If he doesn't, he will have to wait out time for any no-compete clause he may have signed. The fight that he was given was against Ryoto Machida, who is not a very big named fighter, but quite technically skilled.

If you're wondering about the money thing, Dana White is paying his top fighters $250,000 plus PPV bonuses which may get it up to $400,000; in comparison, M-1 gave Fedor Emelianenko, the top MMA fighter in the world 2 million dollars for signing a non-exclusive contract, plus another 2 million dollars for his first fight, and an additional 1 million dollars for winning the fight: Tony Montana: "dat's serious money!"

Though this isn't where it ends, the top boxers in the world receive tens of millions per fight. It is understandable why fighters like Couture and Ortiz are upset getting paid a few hundred K while their bosses rake in tens of millions off of the asses that people like Ortiz and Couture put into seats, and other fighters are getting millions for their fights elsewhere. The problem is UFC has the monopoly in North America, and for about 2 years there was no alternative (and UFC has been picking up a lot of the new independent top talents; but things are changing. Later this year we can expect Randy Couture vs. Fedor Emelianenko, the biggest fight of all time.


Tito Ortiz says:

"I was expecting a bigger fight. I think the fans were expecting a bigger fight. I got pressed into it, and all of a sudden, it’s all over the Internet that Tito Ortiz won’t fight Machida. I’m just looking to get my final fight over with the UFC. They said I wasn’t worth the money. I was worth no more than what I’m getting paid now, and I’m not a commodity to them anymore. I’m not as viable to them anymore. That was a sign of disrespect. With [UFC President Dana White] in charge, I don’t think that fight will ever happen for me,” said Ortiz.

“Dana has bad blood for me and nothing but bad blood. UFC is caring so much about the brand itself. They couldn't care less about the fighters. Fighters are a dime a dozen. They’ll keep coming. Dana is really out for himself and the company. He doesn’t give a shit about the fighters. They’re going to try and ruin me."

 #116607  by SineSwiper
 Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:59 pm
It's a damn shame, but it looks like this should be the route to go. MMA is nearly as popular as boxing now, so they have a chance to get paid as much as boxing. A new federation will get formed or somebody like Pride will join the States, and then UFC will just be standing there with their dick in the wind.

 #116675  by Kupek
 Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:44 pm
UFC bought Pride. Hence all of Pride's best fighters have been fighting in the UFC. Save Fedor, of course.

 #116679  by SineSwiper
 Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:43 pm
Kupek wrote:UFC bought Pride. Hence all of Pride's best fighters have been fighting in the UFC. Save Fedor, of course.
Oh, I didn't heard that. How the hell did that get authorized? It basically puts a monopoly on MMA. Then again, a few top fighters can quit and form their own. Sounds like it's only a matter of time before that happens...

 #116691  by Julius Seeker
 Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:35 pm
Actually Kupek made a bit of an overstatement. UFC actually only has a handful of Pride's top fighters. Also UFC didn't buy Pride, one of the owners of the parent company of UFC bought Pride; Lorenzo Fertitta; some Vegas Italian guy. Pride was forced to sell after an organized crime scandal, a few years back, lost them all their TV and PPV deals.

It was quite a shame, MMA as a whole hasn't really recovered from that blow. UFC is not a good company to be on top, and that has become quite apparent.

 #116774  by kali o.
 Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:29 pm
a) Tito isn't a top fighter or even all that exciting. He doesn't deserve the big fights or the big paychecks.

b) Bloated salaries/paychecks are a huge problem in sports today...but I agree, the UFC underpays its fighters.