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  • The proposal that was announced the day before we captured Saddam and it got sweeped under the rug finally sees the light again-- and pisses off Americans everywhere

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
 #13397  by Tessian
 Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:15 pm
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.comcast.net/News/GENERAL//XM ... iculous</a>

The proposal that was announced the day before we captured Saddam and it got sweeped under the rug finally sees the light again-- and pisses off Americans everywhere</div>

 #13398  by Shellie
 Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:17 pm
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>Oh sure, send our jobs overseas, and what jobs cant be sent over, hire immigrants to work them. Thanks!</div>

 #13399  by Shellie
 Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:31 pm
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>Sure that was an exageration, but Im already pissed at all the call centers being sent overseas. Dell recently decided to cut 1300 jobs and move them overseas. Makes me glad I work in a company with a no layoff policy.</div>

 #13402  by Derithian
 Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:10 pm
<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>Dell brough t it back though because so many people were complaining. well everyone was complaining</div>

 #13410  by Shellie
 Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:17 am
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '>Sorry, it was Earthlink, not Dell that recently did that. Theyre closing call centers.</div>

 #13411  by Shellie
 Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:18 am
<div style='font: 10pt georgia; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stori ... 1:50+AM</a>

Sorry, it was Earthlink, not Dell that recently did that.  Theyre closing call centers.</div>

 #13414  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:19 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I don't see what the big deal is. The jobs that the immigrants will be working are the ones that the actual citizens of the country refuse to work anyways.There are plenty of available jobs if you don't mind getting payed 7-8 bucks an hour to hold up a sign.</div>

 #13415  by Flip
 Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:24 pm
<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>i heard a stat on the radio that 40% of LEGAL Mexicans in our country are on one or more welfare systems, obviously there are not enough jobs and the solution to take my money doesnt sit well with me. Keep them out, we dont need more.</div>

 #13416  by ManaMan
 Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:35 pm
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Just because they're on welfare doesn't mean that they're jobless... It probably just means that the low-paying jobs they have can't pay the bills after they have kids.</div>

 #13417  by Flip
 Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:14 pm
<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>i still dont see how adding more to the equation will help things.</div>

 #13418  by Kupek
 Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:18 pm
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Let me guess: O'Reilly. Check out those stats before trusting them.</div>

 #13422  by Flip
 Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:02 pm
<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>:) Yes, i've admitted before that i listen to O'Reilly and this did come from him. Although i do trust the stats he spues, he refuses to say stuff unless there is backup. Like him, i'm an independant... i just lean right a little :)</div>

 #13423  by Derithian
 Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:20 am
<div style='font: italic bold 14pt ; text-align: center; '>calling him an independant is like calling Lieberman a Liberal. It;s nowhere even close to the truth. O'reily is an ultra conservative bag of wind and Lieberman makes Bush look like an ultra liberal.</div>

 #13424  by Ishamael
 Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:10 am
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>One of O'Reilly's lies. He's a registered Republican.</div>
 #13425  by ManaMan
 Fri Jan 09, 2004 11:14 am
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>His strategy (and the strategy of all of the rest of the NeoCon Fox News team) is to make the RIGHT look CENTRIST. This serves two purposes: 1- it makes the LEFT look like radicals 2- It makes FAR-RIGHT look more acceptable. Their theory is that if they keep telling you something (be it a lie or a half-truth) eventually it will become true (well, at least in your mind) and you will buy into their ideas and support the political views of their boss, Rupert Murdoch.</div>

 #13432  by Julius Seeker
 Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:57 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Are these "Mexicans" all unemployed? Because I was just talking to a friend of mine from Seatle who claims there are well over a million jobs available in the state of Washington.</div>

 #13446  by Flip
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:28 am
<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>Employment isnt the point. The point is that if your country had to help support 40% of its Mexican population (which is like 14% of the total US population...a lot) then you would be complaining too.</div>

 #13447  by Kupek
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:30 am
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I still find that stat mighty suspicious.</div>

 #13448  by Julius Seeker
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:31 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Employment is a huge factor. If they are employed and still strugle to survive (requiring additional financial assistance), then there is something wrong with the system, not the people. If the Mexicans were not doing that work, then who would be doing it?</div>

 #13449  by Kupek
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:33 am
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Actually, the reason I knew it was O'Reilly was that I heard him use it on his show, and I think he just said "legal immigrants," not "legal Mexican immigrants."</div>

 #13450  by Julius Seeker
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:33 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Who gives a crap what you find suspicious.</div>

 #13452  by Julius Seeker
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:37 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Your point?</div>

 #13454  by G-man Joe
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:20 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>Other immigrants.</div>

 #13455  by Flip
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 1:29 pm
<div style='font: 12pt "Cooper Black"; text-align: left; '>If there werent so many Mexicans to fill those jobs then perhaps the employers would have to *gasp* start to pay people more to get employees to do the jobs!</div>

 #13456  by Ishamael
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:05 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>Yep.</div>

 #13457  by Ishamael
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:07 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>I don't know that it's because people refuse to work them, so much as the employers who hire them can afford to pay them less than minimum wage and oftentimes, keep all the money exchange off the books.</div>

 #13458  by Ishamael
 Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:08 pm
<div style='font: 14pt "Sans Serif"; text-align: justify; padding: 0% 15% 0% 15%; '>I don't know that it's because US citizens refuse to work them, so much as the employers who hire immigrant often get away with paying them less than minimum wage and often times, keep all the money exchange off the books.</div>

 #13463  by SineSwiper
 Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:24 am
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light", "Century Gothic"; text-align: left; '>You watch Fox? :)</div>

 #13470  by Kupek
 Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:49 pm
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>No, but my father puts it on, and I can't help but hear/see it when I'm at my parent's place. Why does my father put it on? He disagrees with it, so he has a compulsion to watch it.</div>