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  • Anyone else really excited about Xenosaga? I adored the first one mainly for it's story and can't wait to see what this new one is like, especially considering the important part of the team is still intact. Might make me buy a PS2, along with GT3, SH2, a

  • Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
Because playing them is not enough, we have to bitch about them daily, too. We had a Gameplay forum, but it got replaced by GameFAQs.
 #24847  by Zeus
 Thu Jul 26, 2001 10:54 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>Anyone else really excited about Xenosaga? I adored the first one mainly for it's story and can't wait to see what this new one is like, especially considering the important part of the team is still intact. Might make me buy a PS2, along with GT3, SH2, and MGS2</div>

 #24851  by Eric
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 12:26 am
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>I find it odd the developers called the game a dud.</div>

 #24855  by Manshoon
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 1:29 am
<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>I definetly am. Xenogears kicked all kinds of ass, and it can only get better with Xenosaga.</div>

 #24856  by Manshoon
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 1:30 am
<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>I know. It had its flaws of course, but a dud is the last thing I'd call it.</div>

 #24857  by Torgo
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 1:53 am
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Indeed. Especially since most of the Xenogears' key team members are working on it.</div>

 #24858  by Eric
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 2:14 am
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Bah, you and your videogame female fetish. :P</div>
 #24863  by Don
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 5:55 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Appearance isn't everything, but all other things being equal, I rather having my characters look attractive.</div>

 #24865  by Kupek
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 9:41 am
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>I should be anticipating it more. I loved Xengoears - I think out of all RPGs I've played, it had the most emotional impact - but for some reason, the character shots I've seen don't do it for me. That'll probably change though.</div>

 #24866  by Kupek
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 9:42 am
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>Woah woah woah, the developers of Xenogears called Xenogears a dud?</div>

 #24868  by SineSwiper
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 10:40 am
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Bah! Admit it: you like SD characters.</div>

 #24869  by SineSwiper
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 10:44 am
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Too many people bitching about the second disc.</div>

 #24870  by Blotus
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:11 am
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>All with good reason.</div>

 #24871  by S.Cody2
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:37 am
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Yes. Other than MGS2, it's the only game I give a damn about.</div>

 #24873  by G-man Joe
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:38 am
<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Ico!!! Wipeout 4!!! World Rally Championship!!! You need those more than oxygen!</div>

 #24874  by S.Cody2
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:42 am
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Fuck those. Don't play console games unless they're already won my respect anymore.</div>

 #24875  by G-man Joe
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:54 am
<div style='font: 11pt "comic sans MS"; text-align: left; '>Then how'd you get started on playing video games then? =8^)</div>

 #24876  by S.Cody2
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:57 am
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Note the "ANYMORE".</div>

 #24877  by S.Cody2
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 11:59 am
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>This from the person who has a picture of Yuna in his sig...Tifa-itis (with a haircut) strikes again.</div>

 #24878  by Gentz
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 12:02 pm
<div style='font: 11pt arial; text-align: left; '>What is ICO, btw?</div>

 #24881  by Blotus
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 12:23 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>From what I've seen and read... it's pretty hard to explain. Check out the preview at GIA. It's also on the PS2 Jampack demo.</div>

 #24882  by Blotus
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 12:24 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>Characters look pretty retarded. But if the game's similar to Gears, I'll probably like it (and then sell it because it would have zero replay).</div>

 #24884  by WooJin
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 3:55 pm
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Well, it's sales weren't exactly blockbuster ^^</div>

 #24885  by Kupek
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 4:45 pm
<div style='font: 10pt Verdana, Tahoma; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>It's just hard to imagine a game I, and many others, liked so much to be called a dud by its developers, of all people.</div>

 #24886  by Eric
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 6:00 pm
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '><b>Link:</b> <a href="http://ps2.ign.com/previews/16268.html" ... 68.html</a>

"t's been argued by many that Xenogears was a noble failure -- even producer Tetsuya Takahashi has admitted that the game wasn't quite what it could have been."</div>

 #24887  by Crono
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 8:56 pm
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Well, having sexy female character(s) is a selling point for you in buying a game, hehe (not the ONLY one, mind ya, but it is important).</div>

 #24894  by Crono
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 9:14 pm
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>I'm definitely looking forward to seeing it.</div>

 #24896  by S.Cody2
 Fri Jul 27, 2001 10:19 pm
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Hey, if this 'Kos-Mos' uses a heavy weapons class that allows for dual tri-miniguns, I've already found my favorite character.</div>

 #24899  by Zeus
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 12:55 am
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>No way. The main problem with Xeno was the gameplay, which was shallow and got irritating about 30 hours in. It's was the story that kept it all goin'. The lack of gameplay on the second disc was a godsend</div>

 #24900  by Zeus
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 12:56 am
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>I agree. Following up the best and most complex RPG story in history with less than spectacular - but still pretty good - gameplay does lead to a bit of disappointment</div>

 #24901  by Zeus
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 12:58 am
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>Thus making it one of the most sought after PSX games. It's going for like $50 or so on Ebay still</div>

 #24904  by Torgo
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:11 am
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>The characters were designed by the same person who did Xenogears. I guess they just don't translate well into 3D.</div>

 #24905  by Torgo
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:38 am
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Yeah, the Tower of Babel and Solaris were especially hellish. *shudder*</div>

 #24906  by Torgo
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:41 am
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Personally, I've taken a shine to Jr. This kid is just begging for parental backlash.</div>

 #24909  by Don
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 4:40 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Jr does look cool</div>
 #24910  by Don
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 4:49 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Besides, I don't buy games just because there are cute looking characters on the cover/back. Thousand Arms was pretty close, but I was curious to its dating sim aspect too.

I do that for manga, but not games. It's too expensive. I got Tenchi Muyo In Love 2 manga even though I knew it's going to suck (Sasami doing Dance Dance Revolution is... dumb...) because there's a picture of Sasami on the cover that I haven't seen before. Or how about I picked up a Fire Emblem 4 manga because Ishtar was on the back, or GTO #17 in Japanse because Miyabi Aizawa's on the cover.</div>
 #24911  by Don
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 4:51 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>The 'mecha girl with super duper power trying to learn what it's like to be human' character just never appealed to me, and it seems like that's going to be her prototype.</div>
 #24912  by Don
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 4:53 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>I've always liked the summoner type girls in the FF series. Eiko is my favorite character from FF9, but that's not saying very much...</div>

 #24913  by Torgo
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 5:01 am
<div style='font: 9pt Arial; text-align: left; '>*cough* FFIX *cough*</div>

 #24918  by SineSwiper
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:28 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Heh. I was fearful of that cover.</div>

 #24919  by SineSwiper
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:29 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Some of the puzzles and jumps were fucking annoying, and I didn't like the fact that the camera only shifted at four corners.</div>

 #24920  by SineSwiper
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 3:30 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Whatever. I loved the story.</div>

 #24925  by Blotus
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 5:11 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>I don't have good reason? It was boring. Not good enough?</div>

 #24926  by Blotus
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 5:12 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "arial narrow"; text-align: left; padding: 0% 5% 0% 5%; '>And I liked it. However, the second disc still bored me.</div>

 #24932  by Zeus
 Sat Jul 28, 2001 8:21 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>That's why it isn't quite up there among the truly incredible ones like FF6 or Chrono Trigger. It's just a shade below due to some of its shortcomings, camera being one big one</div>

 #24940  by Manshoon
 Sun Jul 29, 2001 5:24 am
<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>For me anyways, the story was so incredible I was able to overlook all of that.</div>

 #24941  by Manshoon
 Sun Jul 29, 2001 5:26 am
<div style='font: 14pt "Times New Roman"; text-align: left; '>Yeah, the sudden transition from being in control to watching Fei and Elly talk in their rocking chairs could've been handled better.</div>

 #24945  by Zeus
 Sun Jul 29, 2001 9:39 am
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>Didn't say it wasn't good enough, just said I didn't agree and gave my reasons</div>

 #24946  by Zeus
 Sun Jul 29, 2001 9:40 am
<div style='font: 10pt "Arial bold"; text-align: left; '>The story was so damned good it made it into an awesome game instead of one of the top 3 of all time, IMO</div>

 #24949  by S.Cody2
 Sun Jul 29, 2001 2:15 pm
<div style='font: 14pt Plakatbau; text-align: left; '>Very possibly, but it all comes down to one thing, this - How much fucking stuff can she shoot up in 10 seconds?</div>