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  • I don't see it happening anytime soon, but when the world does end, you know it's going to be our fault right?

  • Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.
Somehow, we still tolerate each other. Eventually this will be the only forum left.

 #9518  by SineSwiper
 Tue Jun 10, 2003 8:58 am
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>Or HAARP. Why does this "professor" think it's going to be natural, instead of man-made?</div>

 #9521  by ManaMan
 Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:10 am
<div style='font: 12pt Arial; text-align: left; '>Um, where do you get that from "The cosmologist concedes that natural disasters have always loomed -- so-called supervolcanoes could explode at any time and asteroids could slam into the planet, causing massive climate changes -- but says the most frightening risks are probably man-made. "</div>

 #9527  by Julius Seeker
 Tue Jun 10, 2003 12:32 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>We're advanced enough that even if some major natural disastor does strike, likely most of the human population will survive. If life in the world does end, it will very likely be as a result of genetic damage due to pollution.</div>

 #9529  by SineSwiper
 Tue Jun 10, 2003 12:50 pm
<div style='font: 10pt "EngraversGothic BT", "Copperplate Gothic Light"; text-align: left; '>If the planet suddenly didn't exist, how would anybody survive?</div>

 #9539  by Tessian
 Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:25 pm
<div style='font: 11pt Dominion; text-align: left; '>most? What if it renders "most" of the land inhabitable? There isn't much in the way of massive natural disasters. We're the engineers of our own destruction we just don't know when or how</div>

 #9571  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:54 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>The planets been here for billions of years, humanity as we know it only for a few hundred thousand. The world isn't going anywhere any time soon.</div>
 #9572  by Julius Seeker
 Thu Jun 12, 2003 1:02 pm
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>The extinction of the dinosaurs is not a good example either since there is not any solid proof that they were wiped out by a natural disaster. It is more possible that they were wiped out because they were unable to adapt to changing conditions. It is known that by 65 million years ago, when it was suspected that the meteor struck, that the dinosaurs had already undergone a severe decline in species numbers and populations. Also, if an asteroid did indeed strike the planet with that much force, it didn't wipe out most other species, mammals, reptiles, avians, insects, and all forms of sea life, continued to survive, and didn't show any declines 65 million years ago.</div>
 #9573  by Kupek
 Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:05 pm
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>The Earth gains about one ton of material a year from meteors - most are small, but they still deposit material. Some of this material contains iridium, which does not occur naturally on Earth. Hence, measuring the amount of iridium at a particular level in the ground is a good indication of the amount of meteor activity during that time. At the KT layer around the world, there is an extremely large amount of iridum in a relatively small amount of space. The amount is consistent with the amount of iridium that would be depositied by a 10km meteor. This theory is widely accepted - I've read it in a few places, and we went over it in my astrophysics class. If a 10km asteroid did not hit the Earth, there needs to be an explanation for where all the iridum came from.

Huge asteroids hitting the planet (like KT) are extremely rare, but they do happen. The moon has about 5 impact craters of 10km. Assuming the moon has been around for 3 billion years, that's about one impact every 10 million years. It is statistically likely that the Earth will be hit again - several more times, in fact - by a huge asteroid. It just might not be for another million years, or 10 million years.

Although there is an asteroid that might hit us sometime around 2040, I think. If it did, it would be the largest natural disaster ever recorded.

Oh, and for the record, it is possible to kill just about all life on Earth. If an asteroid of 100km size hit the Earth, it would cause "global sterilization." The impact would impart so much energy that the oceans would literaly boil.</div>

 #9574  by Kupek
 Thu Jun 12, 2003 4:06 pm
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>We do not have the power to literaly destroy the planet. We can make it uninhabitable for us and many other species, but the Earth will still be here.</div>

 #9576  by G-man Joe
 Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:44 pm
<div style='font: 11pt "Fine Hand"; text-align: left; '>I'll wear a rubber for protection when that happens. 8^)</div>

 #9581  by Eric
 Fri Jun 13, 2003 1:38 am
<div style='font: 11pt ; text-align: left; '>Bah, I'm sure if we tried really really hard, we could. :)</div>
 #9584  by Julius Seeker
 Fri Jun 13, 2003 6:00 am
<div style='font: 12pt ; text-align: left; '>Humanity and many other life-forms could definetly survive that. It is probably millions of times more likely that if life in the world ends it will be due to us. After all, Human Civilization has caused more damage in the course of our 7000 years as a civilization than any natural disastor in the last 500 million years that life has been abundant on the surface. Keep in mind that when the dinosaurs went extinct, birds, mammals, reptiles, and amphibians (very fragile forms of life) all survived, naturally we are stronger life forms than reptiles and amphibians, and due to our civilization we are stronger also stronger than birds, mammals, and all other forms of animal life. Nothing in the last 500 million years has caused land animal life to go extinct, so I think odds are it won't happen unless we cause it.</div>

 #9589  by Kupek
 Fri Jun 13, 2003 3:21 pm
<div style='font: 10pt verdana; text-align: left; padding: 0% 10% 0% 10%; '>They 75% figure is from my astrophysics professor. As for making our species extinct, maybe not. But here's the important point: there's a good chance YOU would die, and if you survived, your life would not be the same.</div>